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Thursday Night DL at Wild Russet

 

Minarchism

Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, January 16th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Wild Russet at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 

Martin Luther King Jr Banquet

The African American Alliance is holding the 8th Annual Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Banquet on January 17th – this coming Friday.

This year’s keynote speaker will be Lucretia Murphy, a woman who grew up here in Idaho Falls.  In 1988, she was Idaho’s Junior Miss, and third runner up in America’s Junior Miss competition.  She holds a doctorate in higher education policy from the University of Michigan and a law degree from University of Texas.  Murphy has served as the executive director of the See Forever Foundation and Maya Angelou Public Charter School.  Her work is focused on improving educational systems, with a special focus on providing opportunities for low-income and disconnected youth.

To make ticket reservations, call Dave Snell (522-8513), Robert Brooks (360-8708) or Keith Morse, (522-4896). Please indicate meal selection when making your reservations.

ACLU Fundraiser

I have two tickets for this terrific event!  The featured speaker is Laverne Cox of the HBO show Orange is the New Black.  The venue is equally interesting:  the Stueckle Sky Center at the top of the Bronco’s stadium in Boise.

Please let me know if you’d like to attend with us.  We can make it a weekend!


Here’s a potential new word for you:  minarchism:

… a political philosophy that “holds that states ought to exist (as opposed to anarchy), that their only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud, and that the only legitimate governmental institutions are the military, police, and courts.  In the broadest sense, it also includes fire departments, prisons, the executive, and legislatures as legitimate government functions.  Such states are generally called night-watchman states.

“Minarchists argue that the state has no authority to use its monopoly of force to interfere with free transactions between people, and see the state’s sole responsibility as ensuring that contracts between private individuals and property are protected, through a system of law courts and enforcement.  Minarchists generally believe a laissez-faire approach to the economy is most likely to lead to economic prosperity.”


  • » Martin Luther King Jr Banquet – Jan 17th, Hotel by the Falls, $35
  • » ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – February 7, 2014, in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)

It sounds to me like a branch of libertarianism – the branch that includes the more reasonable libertarians who agree that certain minimal functions need to be supported by taxes.  Minarchism is apparently very close to Objectivism, which doesn’t speak well for it.

I made this objection to a Facebook friend who claimed minarchist tendencies:  “A minarchist believes that tax dollars should be used to pay for the arrest, conviction, and incarceration of a black man for sitting at a lunch counter owned by a racist and refusing to get up.  That’s hard to wrap my head around.”  He didn’t take that criticism too well.  But it seems sound to me.

The definition of minarchist very plainly rules out things like explicit civil rights and rules in the libertarian reliance on completely free markets in the area of public exchange of goods and services.  It includes taxpayer-funded police & courts for the protection of people – mostly for contract enforcement, I assume, but also for maintaining a very basic level of peace.  So a racist’s cafe is very much allowed under minarchism.  And a black man defiantly sitting in such an establishment is very much trespassing.  I see no other outcome in that situation other than arrest, conviction, and incarceration of the trespasser.

That’s generally the same problem I have with any libertarian.  Essentially, libertarianism is based on a fundamental axiom that everything can be reduced to property rights.  And anything that can’t be expressed as property doesn’t matter.

And Idaho Falls just seated a council member that believes this minarchist crap to her core.  Woe is us.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

“The GOP poverty agenda right now includes opposing expanding Medicaid to millions of people; advocating for $40 billion in cuts to food stamps; and near-party-wide opposition to extending unemployment benefits.”
Greg Sargent

 

“Let’s get one thing straight from the start:  the Second Amendment does NOT guarantee an unlimited right to bear arms – it merely says ‘the people’ (collectively, not individually) can create WELL-REGULATED MILITIAS to ensure THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, without the national government having veto power over state and local law-enforcement power.  That’s ALL the Second Amendment was ever supposed to do; it was a response to the British government’s restrictions on the arming of local militias for local defense and law-enforcement.  Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or a lying demagogue.”
Raging Bee

 

“A federal judge in Oklahoma ruled Tuesday that the state’s constitutional amendment barring same-sex marriage violated the federal Constitution, the latest in a string of legal victories for gay rights and one that occurred in the heart of the Bible Belt.

The state’s ban on marriage by gay and lesbian couples is ‘an arbitrary, irrational exclusion of just one class of Oklahoma citizens from a governmental benefit,’ wrote Judge Terence C. Kern of United States District Court for the Northern District of Oklahoma, …  The amendment, he said, is based on ‘moral disapproval’ and does not advance the state’s asserted interests in promoting heterosexual marriage or the welfare of children.”
NY Times

 

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Schedule

 

     
Jan 17 Fri Martin Luther King Jr Banquet – Hotel on the Falls, $35
Jan 24 Fri IF City Club:  Park Price, President of Battelle Energy Alliance (Bennion SUB, noon – 1:30pm)
Feb 7,
2014
Fri ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)
 
Mon The Nation Discussion Group – every 2nd and 4th Monday, 7:00pm, at Sandy and Merrick Brow’s home, 2269 Calkins Avenue, 524‑6230
 
Mon Film for Thought – every 1st, 3rd, and 5th Monday, 7:00pm, at Marsha and David Nipper’s home, 3031 S. Boulevard, 523‑8493

 

Thursday Night DL at Wild Russet

 

Kidnapping (and Catapulting) Babies

Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, January 9th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Wild Russet at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 




This weekend!

Add the Words

This weekend:  Add the Words Rally in Boise.  At the Capital Building at 2pm.  If you would like to go, or need a ride – let me know.


Martin Luther King Jr Banquet

The African American Alliance is holding the 8th Annual Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Banquet on January 17th – a week from this coming Friday.

This year’s keynote speaker will be Lucretia Murphy, a woman who grew up here in Idaho Falls.  In 1988, she was Idaho’s Junior Miss, and third runner up in America’s Junior Miss competition.  She holds a doctorate in higher education policy from the University of Michigan and a law degree from University of Texas.  Murphy has served as the executive director of the See Forever Foundation and Maya Angelou Public Charter School.  Her work is focused on improving educational systems, with a special focus on providing opportunities for low-income and disconnected youth.

To make ticket reservations, call Dave Snell (522-8513), Robert Brooks (360-8708) or Keith Morse, (522-4896). Please indicate meal selection when making your reservations.


Read an interesting story (I think originally at Andrew Sullivan’s site) about a recently auctioned painting depicting the kidnapping of Jewish kids in 19th-century Italy.  Apparently, Italian authorities would routinely seize Jewish children based on an allegation that the children had been baptized (by gentile servants of the family, for example).


  • » Add the Words rally in Boise – January 11th
  • » Martin Luther King Jr Banquet – Jan 17th, Hotel on the Falls, $35
  • » ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – February 7, 2014, in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)

Once a child had been baptized, of course, Italian authorities could not allow him or her to be raised by Jewish parents.  The soul of the child belonged to Jesus, so removing him or her from the home was the only moral thing to do.  [Barf – I just wrote that!]

Besides being an interesting historical point, and a horrific practice now relegated to our past, I mention this because of the parallel to events today.  Here’s a letter from the Post Register from a few weeks ago:

U.S. District Judge Robert Shelby’s action to force Utah to abandon its marriage law is not merely a surprise; it is a travesty and a tragedy.  It denies freedom of religion.  Marriage between a man and a woman is a religious tenet. …

[blah blah Elder Dallin Oaks blah blah God’s law blah blah Bob Loblaw’s Law Blog blah blah LDS Church said blah blah]

Religion is important to people of various faiths; so is marriage.  Preserving traditional marriage and religious freedom is not only an issue for Utah, but it resounds in Idaho and in the nation.

MARY JANE FRITZEN
Idaho Falls

Do you see the parallel?  Mary Jane Franzen thinks it’s a matter of religious freedom that she be able to impose her religion on those who do not share it.  She isn’t stealing babies, but she isn’t far from that.  She is stealing happiness, freedom, and family bonds.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Petition:  Tell Otter, Crapo, and Risch to help remove the religious sheild law that protects parents who kill their kids with prayer
Petition:  Stand for equality in Idaho

 

Quotations of the Week

“The historian Richard Hofstadter, who died too young in 1970, foresaw the persistence of right-wing outrage in his 1965 book, The Paranoid Style in American Politics.  He saw in what he called the ‘pseudo-conservative’ movement, which had pushed forward Barry Goldwater’s failed run for president, the appearance of an ostensibly patriotic faction that was, paradoxically, deeply unhappy and angry with America and the American system.  Hofstadter understood that elements of this movement would survive:  ‘In a populistic culture like ours … in which it is possible to exploit the wildest currents of public sentiment for private purposes, it is at least conceivable that a highly organized, vocal, active, and well-financed minority could create a political climate in which the rational pursuit of our well-being and safety would become impossible.’”
James Boylan

 

“The breaking off of a large chunk of the polar vortex and its visit to the northern U.S. is a random event resulting from a serendipitous arrangement of weather systems.  In short, the clockwise flow around giant areas of high pressure over Alaska and west of Greenland have forced the atmosphere’s steering currents to shove the vortex into the northern US.

It happened before humans dumped billions of tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and will happen again.

This polar vortex excursion is a single weather event directly affecting about 2 percent of the world.

Climate change is measured by evaluating continental to global trends in weather over decades – not events happening over a few days in a little region.  For this reason, a fleeting cold wave (or snowstorm) over part of a continent should never be used as evidence for or against climate change.”
Jason Samenow

 

links … links … Links … LINKS … LINKS!

  So this guy in Utah is on a hunger strike against marriage equality
Keith from Rexburg writes another good column
Chris Christie is having more problems (and they’re getting worse)
Matthew shares:  Elderly couple dances to Bob Marley
Neat video on time
Babies and catapults
Another fine Fox News commentator
True facts about the frog
  If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

     
Jan 11 Sat Add the Words rally in Boise – a bunch of us are going over
Jan 17 Fri Martin Luther King Jr Banquet – Hotel on the Falls, $35
Jan 24 Fri IF City Club:  Park Price, President of Battelle Energy Alliance (Bennion SUB, noon – 1:30pm)
Feb 7,
2014
Fri ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)
 
Mon The Nation Discussion Group – every 2nd and 4th Monday, 7:00pm, at Sandy and Merrick Brow’s home, 2269 Calkins Avenue, 524‑6230
 
Mon Film for Thought – every 1st, 3rd, and 5th Monday, 7:00pm, at Marsha and David Nipper’s home, 3031 S. Boulevard, 523‑8493

 

Thursday Night DL at Wild Russet

 

Capitalism

Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, January 2nd
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Wild Russet at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 




Come out tonight!

Don’t forget tonight’s party:  we have the IF Pride Gala!  It’s at the Hotel on the Falls starting at 9pm.  Only $10!  It will be the best New Year’s Eve party in town.


So just how harmful is capitalism?  How beneficial is it?  I’ve touched this topic in several conversations lately.  And I’m not sure how I feel about it.

There are so many issues these days where we are encouraged to take the middle road.  People get nervous when anyone takes an extreme position.  We are bombarded with the conventional logic that half-way in between the two opposing views is the appropriate, moderate, centrist, sensible position.  Which is generally bullshit.  That “advice” is why we have a centrist-Republican government these days producing Republican solutions to every issue.


  • » Soup Kitchen – Sun, Jan 5th – join us from 11:30am – 2pm
  • » Add the Words rally in Boise – January 11th
  • » ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – February 7, 2014, in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)

So I generally distrust any call for moderation and centrism, just on general principles.  But in the case of capitalism, I’m kind of a moderate centrist.  It seems like a great thing, as long as it is tempered by a strong regulatory framework and backed by a robust socialistic safety network.  And as long as the important things are not left to the free market.

I love this quote from Robert Reich (featured a couple weeks ago):

In reality, the “free market” is a bunch of rules about 1) what can be owned and traded (the genome? slaves? nuclear materials? babies? votes?); 2) on what terms (equal access to the Internet? the right to organize unions? corporate monopolies? the length of patent protections?); 3) under what conditions (poisonous drugs? unsafe foods? deceptive Ponzi schemes? uninsured derivatives? dangerous workplaces?); 4) what’s private and what’s public (police? roads? clean air and clean water? healthcare? good schools? parks and playgrounds?); 5) how to pay for what (taxes, user fees, individual pricing?).  And so on.

These rules don’t exist in nature; they are human creations.  Governments don’t “intrude” on free markets; governments organize and maintain them.  Markets aren’t “free” of rules; the rules define them.

Please read Reich’s entire column.

I know I’m mixing up capitalism and free markets here, but I think in this context they are interchangeable.  What do you all think?  Do we agree that capitalism is good in moderation?  That we need it for a functional society, but that it cannot run unchecked?  Or should we advocate only socialism to counterbalance all those teabaggers and libertarians demanding only “market-based” approaches.

Join us with your thoughts at Wild Russet this Thursday night.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Petition:  Tell Otter, Crapo, and Risch to help remove the religious sheild law that protects parents who kill their kids with prayer
Petition:  Stand for equality in Idaho

 

Quotations of the Week

“Francis may be transforming the perception of the church and its mission, but not its core doctrines.  He has called for a church more welcoming to gay people and women, but he will not challenge the idea that homosexual acts are sinful, refuses to embrace the possibility of same-sex marriage and insists that the ordination of women as priests is not ‘open to discussion.’”
Kenan Malik

 

“Given this, why all the enthusiasm for bitcoin?  Partly, the technological ingenuity of the scheme, of course.  And people have misinterpreted the run-up in price as a sign of success rather than failure.”
Eric Posner, on the inevitable collapse of Bitcoin

 

“Predictions for 2014:  (1) The federal minimum wage will be raised to $10.50, (2) Congress won’t shut down the federal government, (3) Congress won’t pass anything significant on immigration reform, gun safety, or tax reform, (4) Republican Senate and House primaries starting in March will intensify the GOP civil war, which will grow even more heated throughout the year, (5) Americans will forget how badly the rollout of Obamacare was botched, and by year’s end a majority will support it, (6) Hillary Clinton won’t yet declare for president and speculation will increase about Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren, (7) Democrats will retain control over the Senate and Republicans will retain control over he House in the midterm elections (8) The Dow will close 10 percent lower by year’s end than it was at the start, (9) Wall Street will be rocked by a huge insider-trading scandal, and (10) Both parties will tout strategies to reverse widening inequality, which will have grown worse.”
Robert Reich

 

links … links … Links … LINKS … LINKS!

  Rachel Maddow:  This one feels different
Great piece on privilege
Fascinating story on the original welfare queen
The one thing that conservatives lack
I’ll probably watch this in January
David Adler:  Idaho marriage amendment unlikely to survive
Burn the system to the ground
Great column about being wrong about everything
Catholics argue that Catholic judges can’t rule on the ACA
Good overview of whiskey from Tom Ashbrook
Really neat map
I don’t remember this dance from Charlie Brown’s Christmas special
Amazing perspective (right up until the end)
  If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

     
Jan 5 Sun Soup Kitchen – join us from 11:30am – 2pm
Jan 11 Sat Add the Words rally in Boise – a bunch of us are going over
Feb 7,
2014
Fri ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)
 
Mon The Nation Discussion Group – every 2nd and 4th Monday, 7:00pm, at Sandy and Merrick Brow’s home, 2269 Calkins Avenue, 524‑6230
 
Mon Film for Thought – every 1st, 3rd, and 5th Monday, 7:00pm, at Marsha and David Nipper’s home, 3031 S. Boulevard, 523‑8493

 

Thursday Night DL at Wild Russet

 

Post-Christmas

Next Meeting:
  Date Thursday, Dec 26th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Wild Russet at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 

I hope that you all had fine Christmases.  Hollis was especially nice to me, we had great friends over, my kids are happy, and we just have a few returns to take care of today.  All in all, a fine Christmas.

If you’re still feeling jolly, come join us at Wild Russet tonight for our regular (yet fairly unpublicized) DL gathering.  Perhaps we can do a little year-end review.

And don’t forget this New Year’s Eve:  we have the IF Pride Gala!  It’s at the Hotel on the Falls starting at 9pm.  Only $10!  It will be the best New Year’s Eve party in town.

Cheers,
Dan

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Thursday Night DL at Wild Russet

 

Religious Freedom in the UK

Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, Dec 19th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Wild Russet at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 




A little something to weird you out

Sorry for the late notice!  We’re still on tonight!


There’s an organization in England that represents University administrators.  It’s called Universities UK (UUK), and it is caught up in a mini-scandal of sorts.  It seems that the universities in the UK have been dealing with invited Muslim speakers who demand that audiences for their talks be segregated by gender.  The claim being made by the speakers is that if a University does not allow for a segregated audience, then the Universities are guilty of squelching debate.  This has been a problem for several universities, some of which have allowed the segregation in order to have a robust discussion, and some of which have refused.  Both approaches result in complaints.


  • » Add the Words rally in Boise – January 11th
  • » ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – February 7, 2014, in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)

So the UUK issued a steaming mound of guidance on the topic.  And instead of suggesting that the Universities do the sensible thing – telling those Muslim speakers, “Sorry, that’s out of the question,” for example – they suggested that if audiences are segregated “fairly”  – side-by-side rather than back-to-front, with a mixed section for those who desire to sit within a special area reserved for those with impure thoughts – then everybody will be happy, conflicting rights will be balanced, and all sensitivities will be considered.

In other words, the “religious freedom” of the speakers should be accepted as a valid claim, to be balanced against other civil rights.

Just no:

They shouldn’t be attempting a “balance of interests” between equality and inequality, segregation and no segregation, apartheid and no apartheid.  Would they attempt that if a “controversial” racist speaker demanded the audience be segregated by race?  I certainly hope not, and I also think they absolutely would not.  So why are they giving away the rights of women with such a free hand?

The good news is that, after 6 or 8 weeks of outrage, the UUK has withdrawn its recommendation for reconsideration.

Another case in Britain caught my eye, but this time they got it exactly right.  An older B&B-owning couple had denied lodging to a gay couple that showed up after making a reservation online.  They too expected that it was within their religious freedom rights to deny a basic service to other people.  They lost at the Brittish equivalent of court, and at appeals court, and now at their supreme court.  Good on the UK for that.

British courts recognize that religious freedom applies primarily to what people choose to believe.  And secondarily to how they worship when practicing their faith.  But it applies almost not at all to how they treat other people when operating a place of business that is otherwise open to all.  And to how people are treated in open venues in general, both private and public.

Why is this concept so hard for people to understand?

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Petition:  Support Pocatello’s nondiscrimination ordinance
Petition:  Tell Otter, Crapo, and Risch to help remove the religious sheild law that protects parents who kill their kids with prayer

 

Quotations of the Week

“In reality, the ‘free market’ is a bunch of rules about 1) what can be owned and traded (the genome? slaves? nuclear materials? babies? votes?); 2) on what terms (equal access to the Internet? the right to organize unions? corporate monopolies? the length of patent protections?); 3) under what conditions (poisonous drugs? unsafe foods? deceptive Ponzi schemes? uninsured derivatives? dangerous workplaces?); 4) what’s private and what’s public (police? roads? clean air and clean water? healthcare? good schools? parks and playgrounds?); 5) how to pay for what (taxes, user fees, individual pricing?).  And so on.  These rules don’t exist in nature; they are human creations.  Governments don’t ‘intrude’ on free markets; governments organize and maintain them.  Markets aren’t ‘free’ of rules; the rules define them.”
Robert Reich, on why free markets aren’t natural

 

“Let’s look at the two parties’ records on ‘partisanship.’  In Bush’s first term, he got sizable and crucial help from Democrats on his two biggest domestic initiatives (aside from tax cuts, where a few Senate Democrats gave him a lot of help, too), No Child Left Behind and the Medicare Rx Drug Benefit.  Democrats notoriously gave Bush the power to wage the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars.  There were no government shutdowns or big crises over the budget.  And all that’s after Bush won a contested election via a Supreme Court intervention, having lost a plurality of the popular vote, and then proceeded to put together a highly partisan administration as though his accession to the White House was the most normal thing in the world … But there was nothing, nothing like the right-from-the-beginning GOP obstructionism Obama faced, as best evidenced by the refusal of the GOP to offer even a single vote in either House for a health care plan modeled explicitly on Republican precedents in the Senate and in Massachusetts.”
Ed Kilgore, responding to this garbage by Ron Fournier

 

Poem of the Week

The Bandit of Benghazi

It’s the bandit of Benghazi and he’ll be coming to your door;
he’s not robbing the rich but from the middle and the poor.

The media made him president; that was the goal they sought;
and now with depleted wallets we can’t even buy us squat.

Those on the left, of this man’s deeds, they are so very proud;
I hear them in the market place defending him out loud.

They seem to find great pleasure in making all so blue,
if you’re getting really hungry try eating a worn out shoe.

I say this all with tongue in cheek, an attitude so bland
I know it’s really serious this elected danger in our land.

We elected this man president giving him care of all us;
now when asked to perform this task he raises such a fuss.

The answer resides in Heaven, Hell’s celebrating with a feast;
will the leavening now rising bring us a marking of the beast?

What could the final goals be, will those banners be unfurled?
The country, just a pawn you see, in his quest to rule the world.

We might all be so tempted to point at him with blame,
but let us not be exempted we are all players in this game.

Freedom, we were all promised to enjoy our land of peace,
but if our God isn’t kept foremost our freedoms soon will cease.

Stephen Beazer Ryan, in Tuesday’s Post Register

 

links … links … Links … LINKS … LINKS!

  Stand your ground and shoot some old people
Idaho’s pro-ALEC politicians
Very cool interactive video:  Like a Rolling Stone (use your UP and DOWN arrows to change channels)
Libertarianism and atheism
The polarization of American politics
New disease:  Povertenza
This man was almost president
Public schools outperform private, charter schools
Seven answers to climate contrarian nonsense
Cool animated illusions
Taylor Mali:  Ya know?
Photos of New Yorkers that people don’t see
How the media will report the apocalypse
Why science works
Highlights in the year’s stupidity
What would headlines look like if we were math-literate?
  If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

     
Jan 11 Sat Add the Words rally in Boise – a bunch of us are going over
Feb 7,
2014
Fri ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)
 
Mon The Nation Discussion Group – every 2nd and 4th Monday, 7:00pm, at Sandy and Merrick Brow’s home, 2269 Calkins Avenue, 524‑6230
 
Mon Film for Thought – every 1st, 3rd, and 5th Monday, 7:00pm, at Marsha and David Nipper’s home, 3031 S. Boulevard, 523‑8493

 

Thursday Night DL at Wild Russet

 

Quick Notice

Meeting:
  Date Thursday, Dec 12th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Wild Russet at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 

This week has been a domestic disaster of the homeowner variety.  So the notice this week is very short and very late. Sorry about that!

Still – Drinking Liberally goes on.  Please join us tonight at the Wild Russet for your weekly invigoration.

Cheers,
Dan

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Thursday Night DL at D'Railed

 

All Over But the Poutin’

Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, Dec 5th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place D’railed, located at 468 N Eastern Ave (next door to the Bonneville Humane Society Thrift Store)
 

NOTE:  Wild Russet is booked for a Christmas party this Thursday, so we’ve been bumped over to D’Railed for just one night.  Heather is holding 20 places for us, though, so we should be OK.


OK, the election’s all over … in spite of getting Ed Marohn elected, the outcome is a disappointment.  We’ll have four years of Barb Ehardt to suffer through.

But it isn’t that bad – especially from the point of view of public accommodations.  I was already thinking that we would have to take our time, no matter what election results we had.  We were probably going to take two years, even under the best conditions.  That’s what Ed said would be needed, and I think Rebecca Casper will be supportive under those conditions.


  • » ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – February 7, 2014, in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)

And if we are going to take a couple years, then we might even be able to convince Dee Whittier.  He is very much like Ken Taylor, and I think Ken would have been converted with a longer, slower effort.

And who knows what Sharon will do in the next two years?

Right now, we have Ed, Mike Lehto, and Tom Hally.  With Rebecca as a tiebreaker, we can get it done.  The best news is that Barb by herself can’t do any damage (i.e., repealing the current ordinance – which she suggested would be her desire).

So let’s commiserate a bit.  But let’s not lose it.  We are in decent shape.  And we did get Ed in office.

One other point.  Here’s a comparison of the results from November and December:

      Nov 5th Dec 3rd
Seat #2 Paul Menser   35.1%   44.1%
Other   64.9%   55.9%
 
Seat #4 Ed Marohn   36.9%   55.0%
Other   63.1%   45.0%
 
Seat #6 Karen Cornwell   41.6%   46.3%
Other   58.4%   53.7%

All three of our candidates showed great improvement.  From 5% up to 18% better.  [Of course, this assumes that all the November voters who cast ballots for people other than Ed, Karen, and Paul, are basically conservatives who were predisposed to vote against them in the runoff, given that the opposition candidates in both cases were basically the same mold of conservative.  That’s probably not strictly true, but I think it’s mostly true.]

So let’s keep the faith!  The dinosaurs cannot win this battle in the long run.  They are on their way out, and they are scared.  We will move forward – that is the story of history!

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

“The way these things happen when both parties are healthy is that the popular, high-priority policy preferences of one party are bundled with the popular, high-priority policy preferences of the other.  However, what exactly do Republicans have that they need to pass and that Democrats could accept?  The Republican policy cupboard is pretty much empty.  There are some wild demands (balanced budgets, repealing Obamacare) that Democrats wouldn’t go along with for any price – ideas that wouldn’t really work anyway.  Other than those, there’s just very little.  I suppose Democrats could trade a solid increase in the minimum wage for cuts in food stamps, but it’s not clear that would be a deal liberals could support – and at any rate, it’s hardly a popular Republican demand, meaning that Democrats would be tempted to just run on the issue rather than accepting what they could get.”
Jonathan Bernstein

 

Poem of the Week

Slave Driven

i barely niggle a living squirreling around
the home office.  I work for myself as my own secretary.
it’s a shitty job, paperwork ceiling to floor.  the
technology changes every few months.  i’m on call
weekends and holidays.  no benefits or perks.
there’s no vacation or overtime.  the pay is less
than minimum wage.
it’s like every job I’ve ever had except I don’t drive
rush-hour traffic and can wear nightclothes if I want.
there are no racist vibes, no gender or sex preference
or intergenerational discrimination, quitting time
is determined by level of exhaustion.
i get no breaks.  i sit all day.
i grab a bite while on duty
the boss never has anything
good to say

 

links … links … Links … LINKS … LINKS!

  If you do nothing else all week:  read this (and a follow-up with video interview)
And amazing legal battle against a scumbag
Measuring sea level (not as straight-forward as you might think)
I expect retailers will be all over this idea like Black Friday on Thanksgiving
The Benghazi Hoax (new ebook from Media Matters)
Reverse racism (comedy)
The myth of the Vietnam POW/MIA
Neat idea
Really cool stop-action video
A fine source of time-wasting quizes
How to beat up a baby
  If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

     
Feb 7,
2014
Fri ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)
 
Mon The Nation Discussion Group – every 2nd and 4th Monday, 7:00pm, at Sandy and Merrick Brow’s home, 2269 Calkins Avenue, 524‑6230
 
Mon Film for Thought – every 1st, 3rd, and 5th Monday, 7:00pm, at Marsha and David Nipper’s home, 3031 S. Boulevard, 523‑8493

 

Another Thanksgiving

 

Thanksgiving

Spontaneous meeting:
  Date Wednesday, Nov 27th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Wild Russet at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 

Of course, this Thursday is Thanksgiving.  As good Drinking Liberally members, we must allow Diane and Dane and the staff at Wild Russet a day off to spend with their families.  We must sacrifice our evening of libations upon the alter of our liberal principles.

Oh, wait!  No need to sacrifice!  Let’s just move up one day!

Come join us at Wild Russet on Wednesday night, for an informal, impromptu DL.  Get your Thanksgiving preparations done a little early, and then join us and relax.

And remember:  no shopping on Thanksgiving!


As I look back on seven years of Drinking Liberally, I have to say that this last year has been absolutely amazing.  It really stands out – both for the circumstances (IF Pride, the nondiscrimination ordinance, the city council election, etc), but also for the amazing people that have come into our lives through DL.

If you haven’t come in awhile, it might look a little different.  There are some new faces.  Some new to the area, and some just new to our group.  Some new to liberalism.  And even some newly formed from former, less-happy selves.

I cannot believe how incredibly lucky I am to know all of you.  You make living here not just possible, but something to be proud of.

If we don’t see you, have the wonderful Thanksgiving that you deserve!

Cheers,
Dan

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Doyle Beck is STILL a Dooty-head!

For any new Idaho Falls visitors, see this post.

Thursday Night DL at Wild Russet

 

You Can Keep Your Insurance

Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, Nov 21st
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Wild Russet at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 


Look closely … we’re in the small print!

Special Event:  The IF City Club is holding a debate featuring the candidates for the three City Council seats this Thursday night.  It will be at the University Place Auditorium from 6:30pm to 8:15pm.

Needless to say, DL will be delayed.  We will repair to the Wild Russet afterwards, if you would like to meet us there.  And no doubt there will be people who show up there at 7pm, not having read this.


Did President Obama lie when he said many times, "If you like your current insurance plan, you can keep it"?

No.  Not at all.


You have to twist things and ignore context in order to claim that he did.  Remember, the claim from opponents at the time was that Obama was leading a government take-over of health care.  He was assuring people that Obamacare was a program being enacted to help people without insurance to get it, and was not designed to take away anyone’s existing health care.

Now, they are using those assurances in a different context.  They are trying to say that President Obama is responsible for anybody who has had their insurance plan cancelled by the insurance companies.  How is it possible to make that Obama’s fault?

I didn’t know this:  but all existing insurance plans back when President Obama made those promises were grandfathered in.  In other words, the new insurance plan requirements only affect plans created after President Obama’s promise.  And the only plans receiving cancellation notices because of Obamacare are plans that people signed up for after Obamacare passed – plans that the insurance companies created that they knew didn’t meet regulatory standards when they sold them.

It’s despicable, and our media are falling all over themselves to promote the falsehood that President Obama lied.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

“If you can’t take some joy, some modicum of relief and mirth, in the unprecedentedly spectacular beclowning of the president, his administration, its enablers, and, to no small degree, liberalism itself, then you need to ask yourself why you’re following politics in the first place.  Because, frankly, this has been one of the most enjoyable political moments of my lifetime.  I wake up in the morning and rush to find my just-delivered newspaper with a joyful expectation of worsening news so intense, I feel like Morgan Freeman should be narrating my trek to the front lawn.”
Jonah Goldberg, author of Liberal Fascism and all-around twit

 

“I never drink water.  Dick Cheney tortures people with it, which gives it an awkward taste.”
Grover Norquist

 

links … links … Links … LINKS … LINKS!

Schedule

 

     
Nov 21 Thurs IF City Club Debate – all six City Council candidates (University Place Auditorium, 6:30pm – 8:15pm)
Feb 7,
2014
Fri ACLU Bill of Rights Dinner – in Boise at the Stueckle Sky Center; Laverne Cox of Orange Is the New Black is the guest speaker (we’re putting together a table and seats will be about $75)
 
Mon The Nation Discussion Group – every 2nd and 4th Monday, 7:00pm, at Sandy and Merrick Brow’s home, 2269 Calkins Avenue, 524‑6230
 
Mon Film for Thought – every 1st, 3rd, and 5th Monday, 7:00pm, at Marsha and David Nipper’s home, 3031 S. Boulevard, 523‑8493