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Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Another Quick Notice

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, April 20th
Time 7pm on (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

Which side is right?

This Thursday night is the Idaho Humanities Council dinner at the Shilo Inn.  The speaker is Anthony Doerr, Pulitzer Prize-winning author of the wonderful novel All the Light We Cannot See.  I have arranged a table for ten, and all our seats are spoken for.  But if you would like to attend, let me know and maybe we can do something.

So Drinking Liberally will be basically host-free.  Both Patricia and I will be at the dinner.  We do have a tradition of asking the author out for drinks afterwards, so we might be there very late.  But don't count on it.

Please enjoy yourselves and say "Hi" to any newcomers for us!


Remember the March for Science on Saturday!  Meet at Snake River Landing at 11am.  March will take us to Tautphus Park and the Earth Day celebration going on there (about a 2-mile walk).


We had a little discussion about free speech the other night at DL.  The point was made that protesters at universities should not deny anyone the right to speak - that such a protest is a denial of free speech and that once you accept that type of protest then you have basically agreed that such tactics can be used against you, and therefore that free speech is dead.

I disagree, 100%.

My position is that protesters also have the right to free speech, and their exercize should also not be limited.

The point I did not make was that there is an inherent bias in the public square.  Who actually gets to speak?  It tends to be the privileged - whether privileged by money or race or adherence to views that please the administration.


Demanding that anyone who is offered a speaking position should be granted that experience (by demanding that other people refrain from exercising their free speech rights) is giving a huge advantage to the powerful and the privileged.  The "market" of free speech will be heavily biased towards those with power and privilege.

What is the only strength that minorities and disempowered people have?  They are not being offered slots on CNN panels, or columns in USAToday.  They are not flown in to speak at UC Berkeley.

They only have their numbers and their voices.

So no ... I'm not willing to grant such an advantage to the powerful.  I'm not willing to allow that civility should be more important than the voices of the poor.

No right is absolute, and no right takes precedence over others.  It's a messy, conflicting pile of rights that sometimes isn't always straightforward and easily hashed out.

See the discussion on our Facebook page for another great example of a messy problem with rights.

Let's just get used to that.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Schedule

       
Apr 20 Thurs Idaho Humanities Council Dinner - Shilo Inn, novelist Anthony Doerr will be the speaker
 
Apr 22 Sat Idaho Falls March for Science
 
May 16 Tues Community College election
 

 

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Quick Notice

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, April 13th
Time 7pm on (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

So sorry for the late & very short notice this week.  I've run out of time.  Most of my weeks are quiet, with not much going on other than many bouts of procratination.  But this week was full.

Monday night was an Idaho Falls Pride board meeting.

Tuesday night was the ACLU Session Confessions (which was excellent, as usual).

Wednesday night was Dr Adler's Constitutional Conversations (Trump's Troubles episode).

Thursday night I have a dinner with friends before DL (so will be a little late).

Friday I'm off to Boise in the morning for some ACLU work.

This is not normal.  But it does explain the short meeting notice.  Sorry - I'll make it up next week.




Put this on your calendar:  this year's Idaho Humanities Council dinner will be held on April 20th.  The speaker is Anthony Doerr, Pulitzer Prize-winning author of the wonderful novel All the Light We Cannot See.  I have arranged a table for ten, and all our seats are spoken for.  But if you would like to attend, let me know and maybe we can do something.

We have a tradition of asking the keynote speaker to go out for drinks with us afterwards.  That's always been the best part of the evening.

Please read the book!  It's excellent.


And don't forget the Idaho Falls March for Science!  Saturday, April 22, beginning at the Snake River Landing at 11am.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Schedule

       
Apr 13 Thurs IF City Club:  Dr Martin Farr, Foreign Policy Expert, Senior Lecturer at Newcastle University, UK, on The Age of Trump and Brexit:  The US,
Britain, and the World after Brexit
(Bennion SUB, noon - 1:30pm)
 
Apr 20 Thurs Idaho Humanities Council Dinner - Shilo Inn, novelist Anthony Doerr will be the speaker
 
Apr 22 Sat Idaho Falls March for Science
 
May 16 Tues Community College election
 

 

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Upcoming Events

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, April 6th
Time 7pm on (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

Lots of Special Events:

The ACLU is holding their regular traveling show, Session Confessions, to highlight the important events of the state legislative session, and how the ACLU heroically averted disaster.  Seriously - what you hear about in the news is only a small part of what goes on.  Join ACLU Policy Director Kathy Griesmyer for a deeper look - Tuesday night, April 11, 6:30pm, at Stockman's Restaurant.  Appetizers will be provided.


Dr Adler is back!  Twice over!  First, he is planning to join us this week at Drinking Liberally.  Come to ask whatever questions you have about our Constitution.  About  ... say ... impeachment?  Article 25?  Lines of succession?  Anything, really!


Second, he'll be starting up a new set of Constitutional Conversations.  First one will cover Trump's Troubles, and is Wednesday, April 12, at the ARTitorium.  Cost is $10.


Put this on your calendar:  this year's Idaho Humanities Council dinner will be held on April 20th.  The speaker is Anthony Doerr, Pulitzer Prize-winning author of the wonderful novel All the Light We Cannot See.  I have arranged a table for ten, and all our seats are spoken for.  But if you would like to attend, let me know and maybe we can do something.

We have a tradition of asking the keynote speaker to go out for drinks with us afterwards.  That's always been the best part of the evening.

Please read the book!  It's excellent.


And don't forget the Idaho Falls March for Science!  Saturday, April 22, beginning at the Snake River Landing at 11am.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Poem of the Week

Art

Not many passions take your pants off-
painting with oils, reading in the afternoon,
other people's bodies.  I want to really
say something here.  I want to be clear.

But just as no two people see the same
colors, what you hear is not what I'm
saying.  Not conversations as much as
serial misunderstandings, proximate
in space.  One considers the dictionary
definition of "man."  One considers
the definition of "woman."  One considers
arm hair, soft spaces on a hot body.

The obsessive heat-seeking quality of
attraction.  The paint on my pinkie is for
you-a little poison, a little turpentine.
The snaggletooth I want to stick my
tongue into.  This is pigment from a rock,
this is pigment from a bug, this is pigment
from a bleeding heart, and this is jeopardy.

Passion brought me here, but passion
cannot save me.  To mix linseed and
varnish, to create something is to vanish
what was there before.  Chroma for fastness,
chemistry tricks.  Such bold strokes in
erasing and framing delicate beginnings.

About This Poem

"During an artist residency in Vermont, I observed the precautions that painters and sculptors took before handling their materials, including switching out of street clothes into studio ensembles.  I wrote this about a month before my wedding.  Romance was in the air, as were toxic fumes&emdash;same thing, no?"
-Erika Jo Brown

 

 

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  * Guess what?  Tax cuts don't lead to economic growth
* Mike Pence is as heartless as you think
* Kushner's privileged status causing resentment at the WH
* California Senate approves sanctuary state bill!
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton or Oakland

 

Schedule

       
Apr 11 Tues ACLU Session Confessions - 6:30pm - 8:30pm, Stockman's Restaurant
 
Apr 12 Wed Constitutional Conversations:  Trump's Troubles - 6:30-8pm, ARTitorium
 
Apr 13 Thurs IF City Club:  Dr Martin Farr, Foreign Policy Expert, Senior Lecturer at Newcastle University, UK, on The Age of Trump and Brexit:  The US,
Britain, and the World after Brexit
(Bennion SUB, noon - 1:30pm)
 
Apr 20 Thurs Idaho Humanities Council Dinner - Shilo Inn, novelist Anthony Doerr will be the speaker
 
Apr 22 Sat Idaho Falls March for Science
 
May 16 Tues Community College election
 

 

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Short and Simple

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, March 30th
Time 7pm on (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

Special Event:  Put this on your calendar:  this year's Idaho Humanities Council dinner will be held on April 20th.  The speaker is Anthony Doerr, Pulitzer Prize-winning author of the wonderful novel All the Light We Cannot See.  I have arranged a table for ten.  First-come, first served!

We have a tradition of asking the keynote speaker to go out for drinks with us afterwards.  That's always been the best part of the evening.

Please read the book!  It's excellent.


Lazy today.  I think I'll just leave this here:


Cheers,
Dan

 

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Poem of the Week

To The Son's Disaster Manual

It was not I who begot you.  It was the dead -
my father, and his father, and their forebears,
all those who through a labyrinth of loves
descend from Adam and the desert wastes
of Cain and Abel, in a dawn so ancient
it has become mythology by now,
to arrive, blood and marrow, at this day
in the future, in which I now beget you.
I feel their multitudes.  They are who we are,
and you among us, you and the sons to come
that you will beget.  The latest in the line
and in red Adam's line.  I too am those others.
Eternity is present in the things
of time and its impatient happenings.

Jorge Luis Borges

 

 

links ... links ... Links ... LINKS ... LINKS!

  * The health care debacle was a failure of conservatism
* Will the Dems filibuster Gorsuch for SCOTUS?
* Interesting speculation from Josh Marshall
* Inside the Trumpcare/Ryancare failure
* Some good news:  PP attackers charged
* The way to Trump's heart (funny)
* Inside the Trumpcare/Ryancare failure
* Republican beliefs not influenced by science
* One small, annoying habit of Trump's
* Trump:  "So we don't make mistakes.  Go ahead Ken."
Ken:  "My name is Chuck" (not really a mistake, but funny)
* Cool:  interactive transportation noise map
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton, Oakland, or Pasadena

 

Schedule

       
Apr 20 Thurs Idaho Humanities Council Dinner - Shilo Inn, novelist Anthony Doerr will be the speaker
 
Apr 22 Sat Idaho Falls March for Science
 

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Charity, Principle of

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, March 23rd
Time 7pm on (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

Put this on your calendar:  this year's Idaho Humanities Council dinner will be held on April 20th.  The speaker is Anthony Doerr, author of the wonderful novel All the Light We Cannot See.  I have arranged a table for ten.  First-come, first served!


When engaged in debate or discussion, one should refrain from committing logical falacies, of course.  But there are other rules that one should follow, as well.  One such rule is the Principle of Charity:

In philosophy and rhetoric, the principle of charity requires interpreting a speaker's statements to be rational and, in the case of any argument, considering its best, strongest possible interpretation.

I've recently run across multiple people mentioning Speaker Nancy Pelosi's comments about passing the ACA back in 2010.  You remember?  Back when she said that we'd have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it?

Actually, she didn't say that at all.  That's a dishonest truncation of her actual statement.  And it also ignores that she was making a statement to a general audience, and telling them that the ACA would be appreciated once they saw it working in their lives.  Which turned out to be true.


But in hearing that quote, one can have two basic interpretations.  The charitable one ... that she was suggesting that the average person was not going to read a 2,000-page bill and the hundreds of economic studies behind it just to understand its long-term effects.  The average person would actually only be able to appreciate the full benefits of the law once it was put into effect.

Or the uncharitable interpretation:  that this was a secret bill that nobody could learn about until after it was put into effect.  This requires one to believe that Speaker Pelosi was both evil and stupid.  Wanting to harm Americans with a devious bill ("Death panels!") and simultaneously admitting to the deceit.

I've also recently dealt with people claiming that Hillary Clinton laughed about getting a rapist exhonorated.  Honestly, do we really think that cartoonish villians exist and run for office?  As Democrats, I mean.

It's a tactic used by people to fool themselves.  To believe that opponents are evil or stupid or dishonest by accepting the least generous interpretation of their words.  I suppose it's a form of straw-man fallacy.

And we liberals are certainly not immune.  A recent example is the quote from Kellyanne Conway:

There was an article this week that talked about how you can surveil someone through their phones, certainly through their television sets, any number of different ways.  And microwaves that turn into cameras, et cetera.  So we know that that is just a fact of modern life.

Now, granted, it's a little bit garbled.  But she isn't a scientist or technology guru.  She was speaking extemporaneously.  I have defended her (briefly).  I would say that our intelligence agencies probably have created and used cameras embedded in microwaves.  And she could have been talking about microwave microphones.

The best reason to practice the Principle of Charity is, of course, that winning a point using the weakest interpretation of your opponent's argument is a small victory.  And it doesn't make your argument convincing.  So let's always be charitable.  And demand charitable behavior from others.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Poem of the Week

Wife's Disaster Manual

When the forsaken city starts to burn,
after the men and children have fled,
stand still, silent as prey, and slowly turn

back.  Behold the curse.  Stay and mourn

the collapsing doorways, the unbroken bread
in the forsaken city starting to burn.

Don't flinch.  Don't join in.
Resist the righteous scurry and instead
stand still, silent as prey.  Slowly turn

your thoughts away from escape:  the iron
gates unlatched, the responsibilities shed.
When the forsaken city starts to burn,

surrender to your calling, show concern
for those who remain. Come to a dead
standstill.  Silent as prey, slowly turn

into something essential.  Learn
the names of the fallen.  Refuse to run ahead
when the forsaken city starts to burn.
Stand still and silent.  Pray.  Return.

Deborah Paredez

 

 

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  * Read this:  an underground railroad for refugees leaving America
* An interview with the author of above
* Ryan's in trouble:  fixes to the AHCA will not work
* Please don't do this (presented for information only ... I do not agree)
* A Utah Republican wakes up (thanks, Hollis)
* Frank Rich:  the case against empathy for Trump voters (Thanks, Dawn)
* Guy wearing MAGA hat sues bar
* This week's tear-jerker:  Amy Krause Rosenthal advertises her husband
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton, Oakland, or Pasadena

 

Schedule

       
Apr 20 Thurs Idaho Humanities Council Dinner - Shilo Inn, novelist Anthony Doerr will be the speaker
 
Apr 22 Sat Idaho Falls March for Science
 

 

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

ACHA Fiasco

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, March 16th
Time 7pm on (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

Put this on your calendar:  this year's Idaho Humanities Council dinner will be held on April 20th.  The speaker is Anthony Doerr, author of the wonderful novel All the Light We Cannot See.  I have arranged a table for ten.  First-come, first served!


Coming soon to the Post Register, a letter:

How can anyone think that Trumpcare/Ryancare will work at all?  The popular (expensive) parts of ACA are staying (pre-existing conditions, no lifetime cap, etc).

But carrying insurance will be optional.  The "penalty" for buying insurance only after you need it is both smaller (a one-time 30% surcharge vs a yearly tax penalty) and going to the insurance companies.



It gives huge tax cuts to the wealthy ($600 billion in tax cuts over ten years, about half of which apply only to the wealthy).  It still gives subsidies but in the form of a refundable tax credit (giving more to young, healthy people and less to older folks who need more insurance).  People can use that subsidy to buy iPhones.

It removes minimum quality regulations so plans will cover less.

Since insurance coverage will be optional we will all be on the hook for catastrophic coverage of the uninsured provided in the most costly, least effective way (like emergency rooms).

This bill is so badly thought out it's farcical.  It's so bad that Sean Spicer is marketing it on the basis of how small the bill is (when it's really just an amendment to the ACA, not a "repeal and replace" bill on its own).

After spending 7 years claiming that the ACA is killing America, they give is this plan that addresses none of the problems but invents new ones, costs more but doesn't pay for it, and delays implementation for years.

Who puts such unserious people in office?

Of course, that was written and submitted before the CBO estimates came out.  And that's when the ACHA really started to look bad.  Maybe someone else wants to write a follow-up?

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

 

Poem of the Week

Good Hours

I had for my winter evening walk-
No one at all with whom to talk,
But I had the cottages in a row
Up to their shining eyes in snow.

And I thought I had the folk within:
I had the sound of a violin;
I had a glimpse through curtain laces
Of youthful forms and youthful faces.

I had such company outward bound.
I went till there were no cottages found.
I turned and repented, but coming back
I saw no window but that was black.

Over the snow my creaking feet
Disturbed the slumbering village street
Like profanation, by your leave,
At ten o'clock of a winter eve.

Robert Frost

 

 

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  * The importance of persistence
* Hilarious
* SNL honors women on IWD
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton, Oakland, or Pasadena

 

Schedule

       
Apr 20 Thurs Idaho Humanities Council Dinner - Shilo Inn, novelist Anthony Doerr will be the speaker
 
Apr 22 Sat Idaho Falls March for Science
 

 

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Economic Growth

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, March 9th
Time 7pm on (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

Found under a desk by a 4th grade teacher

Special event:  Seeking Solutions for Idaho Health Care - a panel discussion on the state of health care reform in Idaho.

This Saturday, March 11, 10am-12:30pm, Hampton Inn at the Mall


Also put this on your calendar:  this year's Idaho Humanities Council dinner will be held on April 20th.  The speaker is Anthony Doerr, author of the wonderful novel All the Light We Cannot See.  I have arranged a table for ten.  First-come, first served!


It's theoretically easy to promote economic growth, and Trump will likely attempt just that.  I think we liberals and Democrats should be ready and prepared for generally positive economic news during this Administration (whether or not Trump himself lasts that long).  There will likely be lots of news about record profits, high stock prices, and even job growth numbers to match or beat the last several years.

Here's the recipe for economic growth:

  • Drop the top tax rates (corporate and individual)
  • Eliminate regulations
  • Cut social safety nets
  • Deficit spend like George W Bush (infrastructure projects or wars)

Do those four things and there will be fairly robust economic growth.  On a macro level, of course, because the only real beneficiaries of that approach are the wealthy.  Everyone else will deal with downward pressure on wages that equals the normal upward pressure of productivity (i.e., wage stagnation).  And with an increased share of the tax burden combined with fewer services.  And with a degraded environment, more dangerous working conditions, less health insurance, and greater economic instability (bankruptcies, real estate and market instability, loss of retirement options).

The wealthy will be the primary beneficiaries of that growth, but there will be a ton of growth demonstrated by increased employment, increased profits, corporate cash, mergers, and stock market records.


What's a challenge is to show economic growth while also protecting worker rights, protecting the environment, investing in infrastructure for our future, and spreading the benefits of growth.  President Obama took that route, and while not totally successful, he did lay the groundwork for a recovery from the worst economic reversal in nearly a century.  He also found a way to provide 20 million people the safety and security of affordable health care.  That is the path of the true leader.

Another difference between the two approaches is that the latter lays the groundwork for future growth.  It's good for our grandkids.  The former is short-sighted and unsustainable.  But that seems to be the only kind of planning that the GOP is capable of these days.

Trump has come into office claiming that the economy is a mess - just another in a long list of huge lies.  And he is proving to be an incompetent leader and an incoherent thinker.  But if he adopts the GOP approach to the economy, even a moron like Trump will be able to show success in a number of economic measures.

That shouldn't surprise us.  We should be ready to point out the negatives.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

"We're going to do something that's great, and I am proud to support the replacement plan released by the House of Representatives.  This will be a plan where you can choose your doctor, and this will be a plan were you can choose your plan.  And you know what that plan is.  This is the plan.  It's a complicated procdess, but actually it's very simple, it's called good health care."
- Trump (on Trumpcare)

 

 

Poem of the Week

Protest

To sin by silence, when we should protest,
Makes cowards out of men.  The human race
Has climbed on protest.  Had no voice been raised
Against injustice, ignorance, and lust,
The inquisition yet would serve the law,
And guillotines decide our least disputes.
The few who dare, must speak and speak again
To right the wrongs of many.  Speech, thank God,
No vested power in this great day and land
Can gag or throttle.  Press and voice may cry
Loud disapproval of existing ills;
May criticise oppression and condemn
The lawlessness of wealth-protecting laws
That let the children and childbearers toil
To purchase ease for idle millionaires.

Therefore I do protest against the boast
Of independence in this mighty land.
Call no chain strong, which holds one rusted link.
Call no land free, that holds one fettered slave.
Until the manacled slim wrists of babes
Are loosed to toss in childish sport and glee,
Until the mother bears no burden, save
The precious one beneath her heart, until
God's soil is rescued from the clutch of greed
And given back to labor, let no man
Call this the land of freedom.

Ella Wheeler Wilcox

 

 

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  * Trumpcare isn't solving any problem
* Trump is an angry buffoon
* Conservative forces rejecting Trumpcare
* A deep, interesting look at
Trump's America
* A timeline of the Trump-Russia connections
* Easy meals your family can just fucking make themselves
* Oscar-nominated animated short:  Pearl (first VR nominee)
* Nature video that scared the bejesus out of me
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton, Oakland, or Pasadena

 

Schedule

       
Mar 11 Sat Seeking Solutions for Idaho Health Care - Hampton Inn (2500 Channing Way), 10am - 12:30pm
 
Apr 20 Thurs Idaho Humanities Council Dinner - Shilo Inn, novelist Anthony Doerr will be the speaker
 
Apr 22 Sat Idaho Falls March for Science
 

 

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Special Schedule

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, March 2nd
SPECIAL TIME 8:30pm on (show up at 7pm if you like)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

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IMPORTANT NOTE - There will be a weird change of schedule this Thursday.  I encourage everyone to attend the lecture being presented by Dr David Adler and the Alturas Institute.  Dr Adler will be discussing aspects of the new Trump misadministration - with a Q&A session at the end.

The talk will be held at the Trinity United Methodist Church from 7pm to 8:30pm.  So you see the scheduling problem with our normal DL gatherings.  I would like all to attend this lecture, if possible.  Dr Adler is a wonderful speaker, and his views on the Trump presidency will be fascinating.  So DL is going mobile this week.  Please start DL at the Trinity United Methodist Church, and then end it at our normal meeting location.

The event is $10 (unless you attended last week, in which case both lectures are $15).  Call the Alturas Institute for details at (208) 313-6554.

Of course, if you cannot attend Dr Adler's talks, then go ahead and gather at the Bee's Knees, and we will join you after 8:30pm.

And next week, we will return to our normal schedule.


I don't really have a topic this week, but I did want to get this notice out at a resonable time to let you all know about the special schedule.  But I also added quite a few new interesting events coming up.  check them out:



Cheers,
Dan

 

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* Petition:  demand protection for Social Security

 

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  * Robert Mercer is one scary rich dude
* 7 ideas for curing toxic inequality
* Tracking 663 Trump promises
* How bad has Trump's first month been, and how bad can it get?
* I can't believe that Idaho is this barbaric
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton, Oakland, or Pasadena

 

Schedule

       
Mar 2 Thurs Constitutional Conversations
with Dr David Adler - 7-8:30pm, Trinity United Methodist Church
 
Mar 11 Sat Seeking Solutions for Idaho Health Care - Hampton Inn (2500 Channing Way), 10am - 12:30pm
 
Apr 20 Thurs Idaho Humanities Council Dinner - Shilo Inn, novelist Anthony Doerr will be the speaker
 
Apr 22 Sat Idaho Falls March for Science
 

 

 

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Office of the Lieutenant Governor
State Capitol
Boise, Idaho 83720-0057
Sen Dean M. Mortimer
Republican
Builder/Developer
7403 S. 1st E.
Idaho Falls, 83404
Home (208) 528-6377
Bus (208) 524-9000
Fax (208) 524-9999
[email protected]
Education - Chair
Finance
Rep Jeff Thompson
Republican
Businessman/Educator
1739 Peggy's Lane
Idaho Falls, 83402
Home (208) 524-7367
Fax (208) 524-7367
[email protected]
Environment, Energy, & Technology - Vice Chair
Business
Revenue & Taxation
Rep Wendy Horman
Republican
Mother, Small Business Owner
1860 Heather Circle
Idaho Falls, 83406
Home (208) 522-4387
Fax (208) 522-4387
[email protected]
Appropriation
Commerce & Human Resources
Environment, Energy, & Technology
Sen Steve Bair
Republican
Farmer/Investor
947 W. 200 S.
Blackfoot, 83221
Home (208) 684-5209
Fax (208) 684-5209
[email protected]
Resources & Environment - Chair
Finance
Rep Neil A. Anderson
Republican
Retired Financial Advisor, Rancher
71 S. 700 W.
Blackfoot, 83221
Home (208) 684-3723
[email protected]
Commerce & Human Resources - Vice Chair
Environment, Energy, & Technology
Appropriations
Rep Julie VanOrden
Republican
Agribusiness co-owner/homemaker
425 S. 1100 W.
Pingree, 83262
Home (208) 684-4052
[email protected]
Education - Chair
Agricultural Affairs
Sen Mark Harris
Republican
Rancher
1619 8-Mile Creek Rd
Soda Springs, 83276
Home (208) 547-3360
[email protected]
Transportation
Health & Welfare
Rep Marc Gibbs
Republican
Farmer
632 Highway 34
Grace, 83241
Home (208) 425-3385
Fax (208) 425-3329
Email
Resources & Conservation - Chair
Health & Welfare
Rep Thomas F. Loertscher
Republican
Farmer/Rancher
1357 Bone Rd.
Iona, 83427
Home (208) 522-3072
Fax (208) 522-1141
Email
State Affairs - Chair
Sen Bart M. Davis
Republican, Majority Leader
Attorney
2638 Bellin Circle
Idaho Falls, 83402
Home (208) 529-4993
Bus (208) 522-8100
Fax (208) 522-1334
Email
Judiciary & Rules
State Affairs
Rep Janet Trujillo
Republican
Certified Property Tax Appraiser
3144 Disney Dr.
Idaho Falls, 83404
Home (208) 419-8266
Email
Revenue & Taxation - Vice Chair
Environment, Energy, & Technology
Judiciary, Rules, & Administration
Rep Bryan Zollinger
Republican
Lawyer
594 J Street
Idaho Falls, 83402
Home (208) 206-3086
Business (208) 524-0731
Email
Health & Welfare
Judiciary, Rules, & Administration
Local Government
Sen Brent Hill
Republican, President Pro Tempore
Certified Public Accountant
1010 S. 2nd E.
Rexburg, 83440
Home (208) 356-7495
Email
State Affairs
Local Government & Taxation
Rep Ron Nate
Republican
Economics "professor"
2139 Ferris Lane
Rexburg, 83440
Home (208) 403-3609
Email
Environment, Energy, & Technology
Judiciary, Rules, & Administration
Revenue & Taxation
Rep Dell Raybould
Republican
Farmer/Businessman
3215 N. 2000 W.
Rexburg, 83440
Home (208) 356-6837
Bus (208) 356-6837
Email
Environment, Energy, & Technology - Chair
Resources & Conservation
Revenue & Taxation
Sen Jeff C. Siddoway
Republican
Rancher
1764 E. 1200 N.
Terreton, 83450
Home (208) 663-4585
Fax (208) 663-4428
Email
State Affairs - Chair
Resources & Environment
Local Government & Taxation
Rep Van Burtenshaw
Republican
Farmer/Rancher
1329 E. 1500 North
Terreton, 83450
Home (208) 663-4607
Fax (208) 663-4760
Email
Agricultural Affairs
Appropriations
Resources & Conservation
Rep Karey Hanks
Republican
Homemaker/Bus driver
463 N. 1800 E.
St. Anthony, 83445
Home (208) 313-3911
Email
Agricultural Affairs
Health & Welfare
Judiciary, Rules, & Administration
Idaho Falls City Council
Rebecca Casper
Mayor
(208) 612-8235
[email protected]
 
Thomas Hally
Council President
(208) 680-8886
[email protected]
Liaison:  Human Resources
Co-liaison:  Parks & Recreation, Idaho Falls Power
Ed Marohn
Council Member
(208) 419-7345
[email protected]
Liaison:  Municipal Services
Co-liaison:  Public Safety (Fire and Police)
David Smith
Council Member
 
[email protected]
Liaison:  Idaho Falls Power
Co-liaison:  Municipal Services, Community Development Services
Michelle Ziel-Dingman
Council Member
(208) 206-4735
[email protected]
Liaison:  Community Development Services, Police Dept
Co-liaison:  Public Works
John Radford
Council Member
(208) 520-0077
[email protected]
Liaison:  Airport, Parks & Recreation
Co-liaison:  Fire Dept
Barbara Dee Ehardt
Council Member
(208) 403-6686
[email protected]
Liaison:  Legal services
Co-liaison:  Public Works, Idaho Falls Regional Airport

 


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Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Special Schedule

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, February 23rd
SPECIAL TIME 8:30pm on (show up at 7pm if you like)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

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IMPORTANT NOTE - There will be a weird change of schedule over the next two weeks.  I encourage everyone to attend the lectures being presented by Dr David Adler and the Alturas Institute.  Dr Adler will be discussing aspects of the new Trump misadministration - with a Q&A session at the end.

The talks will be held at the Trinity United Methodist Church on the next two Thursdays (Feb 23, March 2) from 7pm to 8:30pm.  So you see the scheduling problem with our normal DL gatherings.  I would like all to attend these lectures, if possible.  Dr Adler is a wonderful speaker, and his views on the Trump presidency will be fascinating.  So DL is going mobile for the next two weeks.  Please start DL at the Trinity United Methodist Church, and then end it at our normal meeting location.

Each event is $10, but you can go to both for $15.  Call the Alturas Institute for details at (208) 313-6554.

Of course, if you cannot attend Dr Adler's talks, then go ahead and gather at the Bee's Knees, and we will join you after 8:30pm.


I don't really have a topic this week, but I did want to get this notice out at a resonable time to let you all know about the special schedule.  But I also added quite a few new interesting events coming up.  check them out:


Cheers,
Dan

 

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Schedule

       
Feb 23 Thurs Stand With Planned Parenthood - noon-1pm, Broadway Bridge
 
Feb 23, Mar 2 Thurs Constitutional Conversations
with Dr David Adler - 7-8:30pm, Trinity United Methodist Church
 
Feb 24 Fri IF City Club:  Celia Gould, Director of the Idaho State Department of Agriculture:  Idaho Agriculture: Building Our Economy and Shaping Our Values (Bennion SUB, noon - 1:30pm)
 
Feb 25 Sat TEDx Idaho Falls - Colonial Theater
 
Mar 11 Sat Seeking Solutions for Idaho Health Care - Hampton Inn (2500 Channing Way), 10am - 12:30pm
 
Apr 20 Thurs Idaho Humanities Council Dinner - Shilo Inn, novelist Anthony Doerr will be the speaker
 
Apr 22 Sat Idaho Falls March for Science
 

 

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Amendments

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, February 16th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the FairBridge Inn)
 

Special Events - Dr David Adler and the Alturas Institute are presenting an extension of the series of lectures he just did.  For the next two Thursdays (Feb 23, March 2), Dr  Adler will discuss the first month of Trump's administration (assuming Trump makes it that long).

Unfortunately, they had to pick Thursday night for these two lectures as the Trinity United Methodist Church is booked for his normal Wednesday night.  Each event is $10  and runs from 7 to 8:30pm, including a Q&A session.  Call the Alturas Institute for details at (208) 313-6554.

I would like all to attend these lectures, if possible.  Dr Adler is a wonderful speaker, and his views on this presidency will be fascinating.  So DL is going mobile for the next two weeks.  Please start DL at the Trinity United Methodist Church, and then end it at our normal meeting location.

If you cannot attend Dr Adler's talks, then go ahead and gather at the Bee's Knees, and we will join you after 8:30pm.


So what is your favorite constitutional amendment?


An acquaintence on Facebook asked that question.  Quite a few people suggested the 1st, as you might expect.  But I took a little heat for disagreeing.

Most of the reasons given were in the nature of this typical comment:  "The 1st.  Otherwise we would have no rights at all."

I don't get it.  I know that we are all taught things like that in school.  But as thoughtful adults, we should probably stop and question those teachings.

First of all, why would we have no rights at all?  There would still be 26 other amendments granting rights, plus whatever is found in the Constitution itself.

But second, there are actually countries whose citizens and residents have freedoms even though they lack a 1st Amendment.  I mean, don't you think that Canadians and Swedes would be surprised to learn that they have no rights at all?

The 1st Amendment is great, and something that really did set America apart.  We would be a different country without it.  But that doesn't mean that it's the most influential amendment we have - let alone that no other rights would exist without it.

I voted for the 13th (ending slavery), but could also support the 19th (women's right to vote).  I think those two made the most direct difference to real people.  But you could argue for more philosophical positions - the 14th (equal protection) or the 9th (enumerated rights).

But not the 1st!

Am I wrong?  Join us at the Bee's Knees this Thursday evening and use your 1st Amendment rights to let me know.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Action for the Week

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* Ask Democrats in Congress to block Trump's SCOTUS nominee
* Attend a few of these IDP webinars

 

Quotations of the Week

 

Poem of the Week

300 Goats

In icy fields.

Is water flowing in the tank?

Will they huddle together, warm bodies pressing?

(Is it the year of the goat or the sheep?

Scholars debating Chinese zodiac,

follower or leader.)

O lead them to a warm corner,

little ones toward bulkier bodies.

Lead them to the brush, which cuts the icy wind.

Another frigid night swooping down-

Aren't you worried about them?  I ask my friend,

who lives by herself on the ranch of goats,

far from here near the town of Ozona.

She shrugs, "Not really,

they know what to do.  They're goats."

Naomi Shihab Nye

 

 

links ... links ... Links ... LINKS ... LINKS!

  * Trump's Yemen raid debacle
* 1 in 9 Trump tweets is an insult
* Sean Spicer wrecking words (seriously funny)
* Despicable cartoon from Glenn McCoy
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton, Oakland, or Pasadena

 

Schedule

       
Feb 23, Mar 2 Thurs Constitutional Conversations
with Dr David Adler - 7-8:30pm, Trinity United Methodist Church
 
Feb 25 Sat TEDx Idaho Falls - Colonial Theater