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Laughing Liberally This Thursday!

 

 

Laughing Liberally!

   Special Event:
  Date Thursday, September 10th
Time 8 to 10pm (don't be late!)
Place Shilo Inn at 780 Lindsay Blvd (in the Riverwest Room)
 

No real notice this week - too busy with Pride preparations.  But here are the Pride activities to consider.

Please, please, please come to the Laughing Liberally event this Thursday.  I have no idea what to expect for attendence, and am very nervious.  This event is costing some bucks, and you all will make my day if you turn out in large numbers.  Let's make sure that we can do this again next year.

Also, for the same reason, please come out to hear Roy Zimmerman's concert on Saturday.  You will not regret it - he is hilarious.

And remember - the best deal is to buy a wristband to get access to all the events.  They're on sale now at Healing Hands and the Colonial box office.  Or buy them at any of the venues (like when you show up at Laughing Liberally!).

******************** Thursday, Sept 10th ********************

Laughing Liberally
Shilo Inn at 780 Lindsay Blvd
8pm
$10 at the door ($5 with student ID) or wristband *

Stand-up comedy from Boise, Pocatello, and Idaho Falls - an informal kick-off event for the Pride weekend, co-hosted by Idaho Falls Drinking Liberally.  Not necessarily kid-friendly.

********************* Friday, Sept 11th *********************

Swag Party
Healing Hands (429 B St)
4pm - 7pm

Come grab some Pride swag!  You don't want to show up for the IF Pride Parade looking all unfabulous, do you?  Stop by on your way to the Opening Night show at the Colonial Theater, since it's right around the corner!

Opening Night Concert
Colonial Theater (498 A St)
6:30pm social hour, 7:30pm show
$10 at the door ($5 with student ID) or wristband *

Spectacular tribute performance by Erika Gaga and her crew.  Erika prides herself on not only giving her most intricately genuine 100% live impersonation of Gaga, but focuses on spreading her Born This Way message of love, freedom, & acceptance.

******************** Saturday, Sept 12th ********************

Idaho Falls Pride Parade
Unitarian Universalist Church (555 E St) to the Shilo Inn at 780 Lindsay Blvd
10:30am gather, 11am start

New route will take us from the UU Church along the greenbelt and across the Broadway bridge and up the river to the back patio of the Shilo Inn.  There will be free transportation back to the UU starting at 1pm.

Idaho Falls Pride Festival
Shilo Inn at 780 Lindsay Blvd
11:30am - 3pm

Join us for a party on the back patio of the Shilo Inn!  Vendors, kid's games, and music by Hot Flash.  Drinks and food available from Keefer's Island.  Free shuttle service available to transport you back to the start of the parade route starting at 1pm.

Roy Zimmerman in Concert
Shilo Inn at 780 Lindsay Blvd
7pm - 8:30pm
$10 at the door ($5 with student ID) or wristband *

Come enjoy Roy Zimmerman's amazing comedic songs in his first Idaho Falls Pride performance!  CDs available.

Idaho Falls Pride After Hours
Shilo Inn at 780 Lindsay Blvd
9pm - midnight
$10 at the door ($5 with student ID) or wristband *

Dance the night away in Idaho Falls's only LGBTQ-friendly venue.  Don't miss the drag show starting at 9:30pm!

* Wristband option:  get into all events for one discounted price - $30 ($15 with student ID)

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

 

Opinions Are Worthless

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, September 3rd
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 

Next Thursday, September 10th - we will not have a regular DL meeting.  Instead, join us at the Shilo Inn for the first ever Idaho Falls Laughing Liberally!  This is the unofficial opening event of Idaho Falls Pride.  We have some semi-professionals coming over from Boise (including Matt Bragg from last year's Idaho Pride Tour).

The show starts at 8pm, and will cost $10 (a bargain!).  But wait!  If you buy a Pride Wristband for $30, you get in to all the events - Laughing Liberally, the official opening event on Friday night at the Colonial Theater, the Roy Zimmerman concert on Saturday, and the Pride After Hours dance party that follows.

Please join us for the first event of the best damn Pride event ever held in Idaho Falls.


Sunday, Sept 6th, is Soup Kitchen day.  Join us if you can.


Thursday night there will be a public hearing regarding the city budget.  I won't be upset if you go.  (It's at the Idaho Falls City Hall Annex at 7:30pm.)  From the latest happenings on the city council (Sharon Perry announcing her retirement) and from the back and forth on the opinion page of the Post Register, there may be some fireworks.  It could be interesting.


Let's get two things clear.  I don't care what your opinion is.  Second, your opinion is not every bit as good as mine.  Not necessarily, anyway.

One reason that I can tell that the conservatives are feeling demoralized and desperate - besides the obvious things like losing elections, Obamacare, marriage equality, being outed for racism over flags and police violence, general population trends, etc - is that I am hearing a lot more comments like these:

"Well, that's just my opinion."

"Can't a person have an opinion?"

"Just because you disagree with someone's opinion doesn't make them wrong!"

Comments like these are the death-spasms of mortally wounded arguments.  And I feel like I'm hearing them a lot more lately. Subjective, I know. But back to the point ...


First, I really don't care what someone's opinion is.  I care mostly about what that person does with that opinion.  Is that opinion forced on others in the form of laws or policies?  Does that opinion reflect badly on my community, or harm individuals within my community?  Does that opinion fool fool people into voting Republican?

You can hold any opinion you want, and I don't care.  But if you try to do anything bad with your opinion, then it matters.

Second, opinions can be shitty, and can be held for shitty reasons.  I do care about that, because I want to know who I can trust to behave decently and fairly.

Unless the matter is one purely related to personal taste, opinions should be based on reason and evidence.  You should be able to back up your opinions with facts and logical argument when challenged.  If you can't and you resort to "it's just my opinion," then your opinion sucks.

Not all opinions are equal.  There are opinions based on reality, and opinions based on emotion and wishes.  The former are much better than the latter.


Kristin Gazaway is completing her move to Boise this weekend, and needs some help packing up the larger items in her house.  If you've got a chance, please lend her a hand.  Ten in the AM on Saturday, at 100 E 16th St.


If you're up for it, you can do some good for SPAN Idaho, the suicide prevention organization.  They're holding a fun run.  Click on the picture for more info.

It's being held on Saturday, Sept 19th, at 9am in Freeman Park (at the bandshell).  5k run or walk.


This coming Labor Day weekend, there will be a celebration to honor Joe Hill down in Salt Lake City.  Joe was the famous Wobblie song writer, executed in Utah in 1915 on charges of murder.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

"They tell you that there's a war on women.  There is no war on women.  There may be a war on what's inside of women, but there is no war on women in this country."
- Ben Carson

 

"... regardless of what anyone says or thinks, the real world is at least partially knowable, and ... it's therefore possible (and undesirable) to have a false belief. ...

"But that simple commitment to not talking nonsense is a minority taste, outside working hours.  Yes, the minority that has that taste is in some ways dominant; since you can't build either arguments or dams that hold water without observing it, both our lawyers and our civil engineers observe noncontradiction in their professional lives.  That applies to anyone who actually has to reason accurately - either to make stuff work or to convince sensible decision-makers - with respect to the things he or she has to reason accurately about. ... even a young-earth creationist has to suspend his Sunday beliefs while working as a petroleum geologist.

"Most of the time, though, people aren't at work, and much of what they think and talk about has little if any relevance to practical decisions in their own non-working lives.  Freed of the need to think rationally, most people seem to prefer the alternative. - And lots of them don't mind if their politicians act the same way, especially when reciting some self-evident falsehood can be depicted as showing 'loyalty' or some other virtue.

"The deepest mistake is to regard someone who acts as if he doesn't give a damn whether anything he says is true, or consistent with what he said yesterday, as stupid.  That's the mistake many liberals made (and some still make) about George W.

"As far as I can tell, Donald Trump simply isn't bothered by holding and expressing utterly inconsistent beliefs about immigration, or for that matter denying obvious facts in the face of the crowd that witnessed them.  Of course Trump is going to say the Bible is the most important book to him, and of course his voters are going to expect him to say it:  doing so demonstrates piety.  The fact that he can't cite a single verse doesn't bother him; that's in a different mental compartment.  And it doesn't much bother most of his voters, either."
- Mark Kleiman

 

Poem of the Week

Tell Me Something Good

You are standing in the minefield again.
Someone who is dead now

told you it is where you will learn
to dance.  Snow on your lips like a salted

cut, you leap between your deaths, black as god's
periods.  Your arms cleaving little wounds

in the wind.  You are something made.  Then made
to survive, which means you are somebody's

son.  Which means if you open your eyes, you'll be back
in that house, beneath a blanket printed with yellow sailboats.

Your mother's boyfriend, his bald head ringed with red
hair, like a planet on fire, kneeling

by your bed again.  Air of whiskey & crushed
Oreos.  Snow falling through the window:  ash returned

from a failed fable.  His spilled-ink hand
on your chest.  & you keep dancing inside the minefield-

motionless.  The curtains fluttering.  Honeyed light
beneath the door.  His breath.  His wet blue face:  earth

spinning in no one's orbit.  & you want someone to say Hey ... Hey
I think your dancing is gorgeous.  A little waltz to die for,

darling. You want someone to say all this
is long ago.  That one night, very soon, you'll pack a bag

with your favorite paperback & your mother's .45,
that the surest shelter was always the thoughts

above your head.  That it's fair-it has to be-
how our hands hurt us, then give us

the world.  How you can love the world
until there's nothing left to love

but yourself.  Then you can stop.
Then you can walk away-back into the fog

-walled minefield, where the vein in your neck adores you
to zero.  You can walk away.  You can be nothing

& still breathing.  Believe me.

Ocean Vuong
 

links ... links ... Links ... LINKS ... LINKS!

  * Trump is setting the agenda
* Trump supporters aren't the brightest voters in the polling booth
* Meet the chumps donating to Trump
* Climate change, up close and personal
* We are irrational beings
* Anne Thériault's The Feminist in the Wild
* This is a little old, but new to me:  Special Olympian shames Ann Coulter
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

       
Sept 5 Sat Joe Hill Centennial Celebration - SLC
June 6 Sun Soup Kitchen - join us from 11:30am - 2pm
Sept 10-12 Thu-Sat Idaho Falls Pride
Sept 19 Sat SPAN Idaho Awareness Run Freeman Park shelter, 9am
Sept 24 Thurs IF City Club - John Grossenbacher, Lab Director at INL, A Bold Approach:  The Future of INL (noon - 1:30pm, Bennion SUB)

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Defending a Teabagger

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, August 27th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 



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Dammit, I hate putting on my contrarian hat.

If you know me, or if you've read my meeting notices, you know that I don't have much respect for libertarian philosophy.  But I have to defend the guy in this graphic that's being spread on Facebook.  [Assume for argument that the guy really is a teabilly libertarian type who normally bad-mouths government services and socialism in general.]

Since when does being a libertarian mean that someone is required to be an asshole towards public servants?  The guy's house was apparently threatened, and he responded to the firefighters with grace and decency.  What's wrong with that?

Is he being hypocritical?  Of course not.  To think that, you'd have to believe that he doesn't think that forest fires should be put out.  But I doubt that's his position (the only people who seriously think that are some extremist environmentalists).  He likely believes two things:

  1. That if lands were in private hands, the owners would take better care of it and prevent such catastrophic fires
  2. That a private fire suppression system would be better and more cost effective

Neither of those ideas is serious in my book.  Very silly things to believe.


But neither belief precludes him from thanking fire fighters.  Libertarians don't necessarily think that the services currently performed by government are not worth doing (though they probably can name lots of services that they do think are unnecessary.)  For lots of services, they just think that private enterprise will do a much better job.  Things like fire suppression fall in that category.

It's like one of the standard arguments that I hear about libertarian conservatives - that they shouldn't use the roads if they hope to be consistent with their beliefs.  Nonsense.  They paid for those roads just like everybody else, and have as much right to use them.  They just think that our transportation system could be developed/maintained in a better way.

I also hear a similar bogus argument from Christians regarding atheism.  If I'm an atheist, then I shouldn't be using our paper money because it has "In God We Trust" written on it.  That's just ludicrous.  I'm supposed to harm my own wellbeing by refusing to use currency because of something written on it that I don't think should be there legally?

So anyway - don't mock that guy.  He's doing something decent and gracious.  And don't use bad arguments against libertarians or conservatives.


If you're up for it, you can do some good for SPAN Idaho, the suicide prevention organization.  They're holding a fun run.  Click on the picture for more info.

It's being held on Saturday, Sept 19th, at 9am in Freeman Park (at the bandshell).  5k run or walk.


This coming Labor Day weekend, there will be a celebration to honor Joe Hill down in Salt Lake City.  Joe was the famous Wobblie song writer, executed in Utah in 1915 on charges of murder.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

"What I was talking about was the specific case of fraud being committed where there's organized efforts, and frankly, it's more related to Asian people coming into our country and having children in that organized effort."
- Jeb Bush, on his earlier comments regarding "anchor babies"

 

"As I have long stated, we are so tied in with China and Asia that their markets are now taking the U.S. market down.  Get smart U.S.A.! ... Markets are crashing - all caused by poor planning and allowing China and Asia to dictate the agenda.  This could get very messy!  Vote Trump."
- Tweets from Donald Trump

 

Poem of the Week

Mercy Beach

Stony trails of jagged beauty rise
like stretch marks streaking sand-hips.
All the Earth has borne beguiles us
& battered bodies build our acres.

Babes that sleep in hewn rock cradles
learn to bear the hardness coming.
Tough grace forged in tender bones-
may this serve & bless them well.

They grow & break grief into islands
of sun-baked stone submerged in salt
kisses, worn down by the ocean's ardor
relentless as any strong loving.

May they find caresses that abolish pain.
Like Earth, they brandish wounds of gold!

Kamilah Aisha Moon
 

links ... links ... Links ... LINKS ... LINKS!

  * Clinton email faux-controversy
* Why fiscally conservative, but socially liberal is bullshit
* Debt is Good (Krugman)
* George Will has championed the modern, classless GOP for decades; now he's whining about Trump
* Louisiana Republicans blame Obama for Katrina response
* The guy that Trump is hurting the most
* "Religious freedom," taken too far
* Sad Puppies lose big at the Hugo Awards (thanks, Andy)
* Overheard at the Muslim-free shooting range:  "Dayum, Jed, I just shot myself!"
* Project Sunroof (not available yet in our area, but you can sign up for notification)
* Bad Lip Reading the GOP debate
* Jeb is part black
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

       
Sept 5 Sat Joe Hill Centennial Celebration - SLC
Sept 10-12 Thu-Sat Idaho Falls Pride
Sept 19 Sat SPAN Idaho Awareness Run Freeman Park shelter, 9am

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Miscellany

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, August 20th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 

If you're up for it, you can do some good for SPAN Idaho, the suicide prevention organization.  They're holding a fun run.  Click on the picture for more info.

It's being held on Saturday, Sept 19th, at 9am in Freeman Park (at the bandshell).  5k run or walk.


This coming Labor Day weekend, there will be a celebration to honor Joe Hill down in Salt Lake City.  Joe was the famous Wobblie song writer, executed in Utah in 1915 on charges of murder.


I cannot recommend a recent This American Life program highly enough.  Episode #562, "The Problem We All Live With," is about an unintentional instance of integration that happened in Ferguson, Missouri just two years ago.  It's horrible story about how we educate our kids, and how we really try hard not to educate black kids.

The follow-up story in Episode #563 is worthwhile, too.  It tells the story of a successful school integration program in Hartford, Connecticut.




The late Renae Stallings, with Richard

I only met Ranae Stallings (1943-2015) a couple times, and never had a long conversation.  But she seemed like the nicest person you'd ever meet.  This is from the Post Register's obituary:

Ranae Stallings passed away unexpectedly and peacefully due to complications from diabetes in her Island Park home on Saturday, Aug. 1, 2015 at the age of 72.

Ranae is survived by her husband, Richard Stallings of Island Park, Idaho and Mesquite, Nev.; children, Rik (DeAnna) Stallings of Logan, Utah, Sallianne (Clark) Duncan of Bountiful, Utah, and Daniel (Ethel) Stallings, of Pocatello, Idaho; siblings, Leann Gustin and Ray Garner; and seven grandchildren. She is preceded in death by her parents Lester and Wilma Garner of North Ogden, Utah.


Ranae was born on March 11, 1943 in Ogden, Utah to Lester and Wilma Garner while her father was serving overseas in World War II. She met her father for the first time at age two when he returned home from war.

[...]

While living in the Rexburg area, Ranae worked as a legal secretary and served in various LDS Church callings. She particularly loved her time as Primary president. In 1984, Richard was elected to the United States Congress, and in 1985, Ranae accompanied Richard to Washington D.C. where she volunteered in his office, scheduling meetings and assisting constituents.

Following Richard's tenure in Congress, they moved back to Idaho where Ranae worked for the Bannock County Sheriff's Office. After retiring, Rich and Ranae divided their time between Island Park and Mesquite.

[...]

Rest in peace, Mrs Renae Stallings.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

"It will go down someday as the greatest reality show ever conceived.  The concept is ingenious.  Take a combustible mix of the most depraved and filterless half-wits, scam artists and asylum Napoleons America has to offer, give them all piles of money and tell them to run for president.  Add Donald Trump.  And to give the whole thing a perverse gravitas, make the presidency really at stake."
- Matt Taibbi

 

"Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any.  So you say "I should get my fair share."  And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "Everyone should get their fair share."  Now, that's a wonderful sentiment - indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place:  that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also.  However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!"
- GeekAesthete

 

Poem of the Week

Postal

Amy, I was almost run down by a car
after buying my lunch today.
It was the postal police.
I was almost hit by the postal police.
This is not a joke.
There is a police force dedicated to the postal service
(the US Postal Service, mind you).
They race around in cars,
they chase down postal villains,
investigate postal crimes
unearth hidden postal agendas.
Conspiracies that they bring to their postal lieutenants
who summarily tell them to let it go, to stop obsessing,
take a vacation, some time off, you're too close to it,
it happens to the best postal policeman, that's what the
        lieutenants say.
(Potato soup and a chicken sandwich, if you're curious).
I think you should apply, Amy.
I think you would do well.
I think they would give you a hat.
Something jaunty that can handle your hair expertly.
You'd cover the hat with stamps from every country in the world
They would give you a pea coat, I think.
Like the one that you've already got, but more policey.
You would look fucking great in that coat.
Not every country, mind you.
Just the ones that sound like they have decent views
of the country side
and a healthy attitude towards outgoing, independent women.

B. C. Edwards
 

links ... links ... Links ... LINKS ... LINKS!

  * The GOP clown car, as only Taibbi can describe it
* Trump the moderate
* #AllLivesMatter:  the rebuttal
* A great idea for handling drunk drivers
* Identity politics, explained
* Death of a man, death of a bear
* What was the main cause of the Civil War? (sorry that this is from Dennis Prager's Prager "University")
* Anti-gay baker loses again
*  ... and that Kentucky clerk is still being belligerent
* Hilarious:  funny guy poses as Target customer support
* Mathematics:  a new tiling of the plane
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

       
Sept 10-12 Thu-Sat Idaho Falls Pride
Sept 19 Sat SPAN Idaho Awareness Run Freeman Park shelter, 9am

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Bernie and #BLM

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, August 13th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 



This is how y'all look saying #AllLivesMatter

Hmmmm ... what to talk about this week?  Trump vs Megyn Kelly, or Bernie Sanders and #BlackLivesMatter?  Since the former doesn't matter in the least, let's go with Bernie and #BLM.

So the #BlackLivesMatter supporters (or a few people who say that they are #BLM supporters) have been disrupting rallies for Bernie Sanders.  They have jumped up on stage and demanded to speak - which Sanders has allowed.  They've apparently gotten a little belligerent at times, calling one audience racist for a booing reaction.

It's been a delicate situation for Sanders, but he seems to be handling it well, releasing a new platform on the issue of racial equality in the past couple of days.

It has bothered me a bit that people are wringing their hands in worry about this, suggesting that this is hurting Sanders's campaign, or hurting the Democratic chances in general.  Specifically that the #BLM movement has come under criticism from some on the left for some perceived harm.  I don't think there's any evidence of this.


In fact, these disruptions have brought Sanders more press than he'd gotten by holding these massive rallies in the first place.  Secondly, it's a great opportunity for him to show leadership (which he seems to be doing) and to earn the support of a lot of fired-up, motivated people.  I can see this helping him greatly.

But to see liberals questioning the whole #BlackLivesMatter movement - that is the painful thing.  To see one set of good people objecting to the behavior of another set of good people working to correct some very serious and longstanding problems in our country - that is what poses a danger to continued progress and to the moral of the Democrats.

One question that I see asked is "why Bernie?"  As if it's baffling to see people pressing their case in front of a person that stands a pretty good chance of pulling off a surprise victory in the Dem primaries and then becoming President.  These people are focusing on Sanders for very good reasons.

First, trying to do this at a GOP candidate's event would be a complete waste of time.  Imagine the response of the GOP and its base to blacks disrupting one of their rallies:  "See!  Black thugs taking over!  Rude, malicious, and seeking handouts!  Just like blacks to expect us to fix their problems!"  When hateful ignoramuses like Trump are making threats, there's no reason to protest there.

Second, Bernie is drawing the crowds.  Hillary Clinton is maintaining her stealth-leader role.  You go where the people are.

Anyway, Sander's is benefitting from these protests.  And the issue being raised by #BLM is damn important.  Let's stop fighting against ourselves.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

"The thing is, income inequality is due to some people working harder and selling more things.  If people voluntarily buy more of your stuff, you'll have more money."
- Rand Paul

 

Poem of the Week

The Dark Hills

Dark hills at evening in the west,
Where sunset hovers like a sound
Of golden horns that sang to rest
Old bones of warriors under ground,
Far now from all the bannered ways
Where flash the legions of the sun,
You fade—as if the last of days
Were fading, and all wars were done.

Edwin Arlington Robinson
 

links ... links ... Links ... LINKS ... LINKS!

  * Thoughtful comments on the Bernie/#BlackLivesMatter issue
* I'm late posting this, but here's a compare/contrast on Caitlyn & Rachel
* Watch this:  How to Race Bait
* Cartoon:  If global warming is real, explain that!
* Bristol Palin attacks Erick Erickson for attacking Donald Trump for attacking women
* ALEC's man in Washington (they hope)
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

       
Aug 14 Fri Birthday Party for Social Security - Laborers Training Center (580 W 19th St) 7pm
Aug 15 Sat Pizza and Politics (Bonneville Democrats), Papa Tom's Pizza, noon
Aug 16 Sun Annual PFLAG Potluck Dinner, 4pm, Kate Curley Park
Sept 10-12 Thu-Sat Idaho Falls Pride
Sept 19 Sat SPAN Idaho Awareness Run Freeman Park shelter, 9am

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Conservative Roots

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, August 6th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 

The heart of the conservative philosophy is the desire to maintain or restore the values, institutions, and practices of the past.

A corollary to that definition is that conservatives will always, always be of the opinion that things are worse today than they were in the past.  They have to believe that, because they prefer the way things used to be.  Perhaps this is related to a deeply rooted theistic belief in the "fall" of mankind.  Or perhaps it's just a psychological bias that infects people.

So they will always have "evidence" to back up their claims against any proposed change:  that being their perception that things are worse.  And that "evidence" mounts instantaneously the moment any change is made and keeps mounting steadily as time passes.

We've had marriage equality in Idaho since November last year.  There have been no bad consequences.  There will never be any bad consequences.

But 10 years from now, conservatives will see the world as much worse than it used to be (even if it's actually better).  And they will blame gay marriage for that perceived decline.  (Or any other array of positive changes that have taken place:  Obamacare, immigration, the existence of taxation, regulation, the persistence of liberals, etc.  Or they will blame all those changes at various times, depending upon their mood.)


They are now railing against the proposed treaty limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions.  Had Republicans ever once said about any Obama administration proposal, "You know, we can't support the whole thing, we'd like to see some changes, but I think we can work something out," then perhaps we could believe them on the Iraq deal.  But no.  They've made the same identical prediction on every single proposal:  it's either extremely damaging to America or fatal to America.  Their pronouncements have no credibility.

I don't know if the Iran treaty is good or not.  This is one of those times that I've tended to trust the intentions and capabilities of the international coalition rather than do the hard work of investigating myself.  But the blanket opposition of the right is something that makes me feel comfortable with the treaty.

On almost every single issue you can name over the last 7 years, it's been the same story.  President Obama is changing things for the worse.  Every.  Single.  Thing.  Even though America is now better off in almost every single measure of accomplishment, they are still convinced that everything has gone to shit.

And the conservatives who aren't crazy and don't think like their extremist brethren are not standing up to fix the problem.  They are continuing to vote for the same extremists and support the same bad, reactionary policies.

Today's conservative cannot be reasoned with.  Today's conservative is not rational in any way.

Rant over.


And now for a great letter from Jim Sathe in the Post Register of August 1st:

Ignore the right

Rick Manning (guest column 7/25) urges his fellow Republicans to pick some important fights with President Obama and fight to win.  As part of the list, he throws in a racist comment about low income (black) housing being forced on suburban (white) neighborhoods.

I am sure he would be surprised to learn that there are millions more low-income white people than low-income black people. 
Well, Republicans have been picking fights with Obama for seven years and steadily losing.  That is because our President is overwhelmingly smarter and more strategic in his thinking than they are.

The problem for Republicans is their current Congress was put there by the crazy right-wing base of their party.  I am sure there are level-headed, clear-thinking, decent, caring Republican politicians (Jon Huntsman comes to mind) out there if there were enough level-headed, clear-thinking, decent, caring Republican voters to support them.

Unfortunately for the country, the racist, homophobic, gun-crazy base still controls the primaries.  The result is the current crop of clowns running for president on the Republican ticket.

Demographic studies predict a coming center left leaning in the American public.  If Republicans ever want to see the inside of the White House again, they will need to ignore the screaming of the right-wing base and think hard about making America a better place for all of us; instead of returning to a place where white men held absolute power.

JIM SATHE
Idaho Falls

 

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

"For all of the Republican National Committee's best-laid plans to have a streamlined and efficient primary process after a lengthy and bruising 2012 primary season, the size of the 2016 field — the largest in modern presidential campaign history — is working to unravel those efforts. Many chairs expect that it will be well into the spring of 2016 before the field is seriously winnowed down, even though few expect all 17 candidates will still be in the contest by early next year."
- Politico, "A Primary in Chaos"

 

"The remedy for misleading speech, or speech we do not like, is more speech, not enforced silence."
- U.S. District Judge B. Lynn Winmill

 

"It must be galling for the party regulars to prostrate themselves helplessly before the base, purging any hint of independent thought, only to watch a formerly pro-choice, libertine if not liberal, Democratic donor waltz into the lead."
- Jonathan Chait

 

Poem of the Week

Sonnet VII [O Solitude! if I must with thee dwell]

O Solitude! if I must with thee dwell,
Let it not be among the jumbled heap
Of murky buildings; climb with me the steep,—
Nature's observatory—whence the dell,
Its flowery slopes, its river's crystal swell,
May seem a span; let me thy vigils keep
'Mongst boughs pavillion'd, where the deer's swift leap
Startles the wild bee from the fox-glove bell.
But though I'll gladly trace these scenes with thee,
Yet the sweet converse of an innocent mind,
Whose words are images of thoughts refin'd,
Is my soul's pleasure; and it sure must be
Almost the highest bliss of human-kind,
When to thy haunts two kindred spirits flee.

John Keats
 

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  * Boulder-White Clouds bill passes the Senate!
* Good news for cows (and a win for the ACLU of Idaho)
* And good news in Texas
* Who made the debate?
* What do conservatives see in Trump?
* Trouble for Rand Paul
* Elizabeth Warren, kicking ass
* One of the root causes behind police shootings
* Trump & Sanders:  revolt against the ruling class
* A boost for the Iran deal
* Republicans brought the Trump circus on themselves
* The Post Register is up for sale
* This was very popular on Facebook this week
* This had me in tears of laughter
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

       
Aug 7 Fri IF City Club:  William Adams, Chairman, National Endowment for the Humanities (Bennion SUB, noon - 1:30pm)
Aug 16 Sun Annual PFLAG Potluck Dinner, 4pm, Kate Curley Park
Sept 10-12 Thu-Sat Idaho Falls Pride

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Driving Privilege

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, July 30th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 

Now that I'm training two kids with learner's permits, I find myself explaining to them the reasons behind our rules of the road.  For example, driving back from Boise last Friday on I-86, I encountered several people who just couldn't resist driving permanently in the left lane.  I'm kind of a stickler myself about driving in the right lane unless passing.  So I told them about how it was important for safety that all of the drivers follow the same basic patterns of behavior.

I don't know what people think when they stay in the passing lane.  Perhaps they don't even realize that they are driving in an annoying way.  They're just cruising along - normally at a rate of speed above the posted limit.  They have much less traffic to worry about.  It probably seems like the best, most convenient solution to them.  They aren't bothering anybody, really, and nobody is bothering them.  Plus, the left lane is often more smooth than the right lane because it has less traffic over time.  Why not just stay there?

Then a parallel struck me.  People like me - white, cis, straight - are like those people who drive in the passing lane.  We have the privilege of traveling through life in the lane that allows faster speeds, fewer obstacles, and smoother travel.  Other people are driving in the lane where there are obstacles - they frequently find themselves with a slower-moving vehicle in their path.  They need to signal to pass; they need to watch for traffic in the passing lane; they need to get back in their own lane once they've overcome their obstacle.


This analogy doesn't have to do with numbers of people in each category, or even with the ability to violate the law with less risk.  I'm not concerned at all with those aspects.  The mindset of the passing-lane driver is the important thing.  We white, straight, cis people have the privilege of speeding through life at our own velocity and we don't have to take notice of other people.

Our society is set up that way.  Some people are born in the fast lane, and never get out of it.  They're raised to feel at home there.  Other people are taught to stay in the right lane.  That's their place in life.  They are expected to deal with obstacles that exist in that lane.  And most of all, they are expected to deal with those obstacles in a way that does not inconvenience the rest of us.  Because nothing in life is worse than someone who is temporarily in our lane and causing us to have to slow down a bit.  That is unforgivable.  That is much worse than the expectation that they drive in the obstacle-filled and bumpier lane for their entire life.

And that's the truly insidious thing about privilege, isn't it?  That it both stratifies society and provides a way for the privileged folks to look down on the underprivileged folks - to blame them for being in their position.  "Why aren't they moving through life like me?  They must suffer from some sort of flaw."

This was just an attempt to generate another analogy to help explain the concept of privilege to those that don't seem to get it.  And how privilege can exist within a system in a form unrecognizable to those who benefit from it.  In fact - how that system of privilege can make the underprivileged seem responsible for the whole thing.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

"This president's foreign policy is the most feckless in American history.  It is so naive that he would trust the Iranians.  By doing so, he will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven.  This is the most idiotic thing, this Iran deal.  It should be rejected by both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and by the American people.  I read the whole deal.  We gave away the whole store.  It's got to be stopped."
- Mike Huckabee

 

"The GOP tends to preach and practice intolerance, xenophobia, nationalism and anti-democratic values (i.e., voter suppression).  In many ways, the GOP is anti-enlightenment, and embraces passion over reason.  The dangerous denial of climate change and other scientific facts seems to come out of the corrupt alliance of anti-intellectual traditionalism and corporate influence (i.e., oil and gas).

Now, the fact of the matter is that fascism died in the mid-20th century.  The GOP are obviously not fascists, but they share a family resemblance.  As stated above, the base have many similar passions - traditionalism, nationalism, intolerance towards immigrants or minorities.  They react with hostility towards the social progress of others and largely believe in a 'survival of the fittest' ideology."
- Conor Lynch

 

"I'd love [having Sarah Palin in my administration].  Because she really is somebody who knows what's happening and she's a special person.  She's really a special person and I think people know that."
- Donald Trump

 

Poem of the Week

Respect

Because her body is winter inside a cave
because someone built
fire there and forgot to put it out
because bedtime is a castle
she's building inside herself
with a moat
and portcullis
and buckets full of mist
because when you let go
the reins
horses
tumble over cliffs and turn
into moths before hitting bottom
because their hooves leave streaks of midnight
in the sky
because stuffed rabbits
are better at keeping secrets
than stopping hands
because when the world got
shoved up inside her
she held it tight like a kegel ball
and wondered
at the struggle Atlas had
carrying such a tiny thing
on his back

Melissa Studdard
 

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  * Fired Indiana clerk is suing because she isn't allowed to discriminate against gays (because not letting her discriminate is discrimination, you know)
* Chris Matthews rips Marco Rubio (and all the conservatives who personally insult our President)
* 50 reasons the Bush presidency sucked
* How to end up in a shack in the woods surrounded by snipers
* Interesting political test
* The difference between sexual empowerment and sexual objectification
* Hmmm ... can you legally murder in Yellowstone National Park?
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

       
Aug 2 Sun Soup Kitchen - join us from 11:30am - 2pm
Aug 7 Fri IF City Club:  William Adams, Chairman, National Endowment for the Humanities (Bennion SUB, noon - 1:30pm)
Aug 16 Sun Annual PFLAG Potluck Dinner, 4pm, Kate Curley Park
Sept 10-12 Thu-Sat Idaho Falls Pride

 

Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

Viscious Conservatism

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, July 16th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 




The Conservative Dream Team:
one more reason that we don't
have to worry about the GOP

Special Note:  Hollis and I will miss this week's Drinking Liberally (July 23rd).  We'll be in Boise to see The Book of Mormon.  Bob has gallantly offered to stand in as host.  Please come by and say "Hi."


So my parents were here over the weekend.  Had a fine time, and avoided most of the landmines.  But there was the comment about "the late Bruce Jenner."  Hollis and I both let that one go without response.

But thinking about it now, I have to say that I continue to be stunned by the outright cruelty of the modern American conservative.  Seriously, why would anyone say that?  This is my dad I'm talking about here, and I love him.  But why go out of your way to be viscious to anyone for no good reason?

On Monday, NPR had a story on how Texas is denying to issue birth certificates to certain children.  These would be children born in America.  Children that are American citizens according to the US Constitution.

A birth certificate would give such children health care, food stamp benefits, and entrance into the public school system.


  • " Laughing Liberally - DL will sponsor a comedy event to kick off Pride weekend (Sept 10th, Bee's Knees)
  • " Pride Concert - hoping to schedule Alana Davis and Rebecca Scott (Sept 11th, 7pm, Colonial Theater)
  • " Pride Parade - new course - UU Church to Shilo Inn (Sept 12th, 10:30am)
  • " Pride Festival - vendors, food, drink, Dr Zoo (noon-2pm, Shilo Inn)
  • " Roy Zimmerman - comedian extraordinaire (7pm, Shilo Inn)
  • " Pride Dance Party - Idaho Falls' only LGBTQ-friendly dance event (9pm, Shilo Inn)

Why would Texas deny them birth certificates?  Why ... to protect them, of course.  Texas thinks it's dangerous to issue birth certificates willy-nilly.  So they are demanding that parents applying for such documents to prove who they are.

And because President Obama announced a relaxation in how the US will handle families within our immigration enforcement system - Texas decided to limit the acceptable forms of identification allowed.  They decided that the only acceptable identification are the types that require people to go back to their home country to get.  Like driver's licenses or passport visas.

That's right.  Parents of US citizens in Texas now face the choice between not having a birth certificate for their American children and going back to their birth countries then not being able to get back into the US.

I don't think it is said often enough:  Fuck Texas (though not all the good residents).  And fuck conservatives.  How is it that they can be so damn viscious and hateful?  What makes someone think like that?

I have no answers.  But I think it's deeply related to what has gone so wrong with the modern conservative movement.  Come share your thoughts this Thursday at Drinking Liberally.

 

Cheers,
Dan

 

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  * The
greatest column on race in America (well, maybe top 10)
* Is Idaho shifting leftward?
* Clinton's liberal cred
* One neat way to respond to KKK marchers
* Perhaps a bit hyperbolic:  the really big earthquake
* Robert Reich shoots down four right-wing lies about inequality
* Almost everything you've heard about the Sweet Cakes by Melissa is wrong
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

       
Aug 7 Fri IF City Club:  William Adams, Chairman, National Endowment for the Humanities (Bennion SUB, noon - 1:30pm)
Sept 10-12 Thu-Sat Idaho Falls Pride

 

Special Event Tonight at the Colonial Theater

 

Dr Adler at the Colonial

  Special Event:
Date Tuesday, July 21st
Time 5 to 6:30pm
Place Willard Arts Center at 498 A St (in the Colonial Theater)

Sorry for the very short notice, but Dave Adler is up to something that I think you'll want to be aware of.

He is hosting a special informal reception for his new venture:  The Sun Valley Institute.  For those of you who have been with us long enough, you might remember a lecture series that Dr. Adler taught on the notorious Supreme Court decisions.  It was one of the most worthwhile things I've ever had the pleasure of attending.  And he's told me that he wants to do something similar in the near future through this new role.

Here's the blurb from Carrie Scheid's newsletter:

New "Civic Education and Dialogue Institute:"  You are invited to a reception hosted by Greg and Steve Carr to introduce Dr. David Adler and the brand new "Sun Valley Institute" to the Idaho Falls Community on Tuesday, July 21, 5-6:30 pm at the Willard Arts Center in downtown Idaho Falls. The Sun Valley Institute is "a nonprofit organization committed to advancing civic education and dialogue on some of the most pressing challenges facing Idaho and the United States."  No RSVP required.  Just stop by and learn more about this new effort.  Hors d'oeuvres and beverages will be served.

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Thursday Night DL at the Bee's Knees

 

 

Quick Notes

   Next meeting:
  Date Thursday, July 16th
Time 7 to 9pm (show up when you can)
Place Bee's Knees at 850 Lindsay Blvd (in the front of the Guesthouse Inn)
 

Sorry for the very short notice, and the late notice, too.  Things may not be too different in the near future, either.  Life is interrupting.


  • " Laughing Liberally - DL will sponsor a comedy event to kick off Pride weekend (Sept 10th, Bee's Knees)
  • " Pride Concert - hoping to schedule Alana Davis and Rebecca Scott (Sept 11th, 7pm, Colonial Theater)
  • " Pride Parade - new course - UU Church to Shilo Inn (Sept 12th, 10:30am)
  • " Pride Festival - vendors, food, drink, Dr Zoo (noon-2pm, Shilo Inn)
  • " Roy Zimmerman - comedian extraordinaire (7pm, Shilo Inn)
  • " Pride Dance Party - Idaho Falls' only LGBTQ-friendly dance event (9pm, Shilo Inn)

Special Note 1:  I've been told that The Bee's Knees has lost their liquor license - not because of anything that they did.  Apparently the Balls owned the license that Heather was using, and they sold it to Buffalo Wild Wings.  Heather has purchased a beer-and-wine license, which will allow them to operate (and I've verified that it is in place as of today).  Anyway - no change for most of us, but a few of us will not be able to buy mixed drinks until this problem is solved.

Special Note 2:  Hollis and I will miss next week's Drinking Liberally (July 23rd).  We'll be in Boise to see The Book of Mormon.  If you'd like a chance to be acting host, let me know.  Duties include showing up and being yourself.

 

Cheers,
Dan

 

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Quotations of the Week

"You don't have to be the world's policeman, but we have to be the world's leader - and there's a huge difference.  This guy, this president and Secretary Clinton and Secretary Kerry, when someone disagrees with their nuanced approach - where it's all kind of so sophisticated it makes no sense, you know what I'm saying?  Big-syllable words and lots of fancy conferences and meetings - but we're not leading, that creates chaos, it creates a more dangerous world."
- Jeb Bush

 

"Fox News is not real news and you're not a real reporter.  I talk to real news only."
- San Fransisco City Supervisor Scott Wiener

 

Poem of the Week

Stridulation Sonnet

Tiger beetles, crickets, velvet ants, all
know the useful friction of part on part,
how rub of wing to leg, plectrum to file,
marks territories, summons mates.  How

a lip rasped over finely tined ridges can
play sweet as a needle on vinyl.  But
sometimes a lone body is insufficient.
So the sapsucker drums chimney flashing

for our amped-up morning reveille.  Or,
later, home again, the wind's papery
come hither through the locust leaves.  The roof
arcing its tin back to meet the rain.

The bed's soft creak as I roll to my side.
What sounds will your body make against mine?

Jessica Jacobs
 

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  * I sometimes say, "This will bring a tear to your eyes."  Well, this one had me sobbing.
* Sweetheart deal:  Boy Scouts buy the Melaleuca building on South Yellowstone
* They may never give up
* One great opinion column from North Dakota
* "Fox News is not real news, and you're not a real reporter"
* Dent County, Missouri, did something painfully stupid (even compared to all the county clerks resigning or refusing to issue marriage licenses)
* ... then did an about-face
  * If you need more excellent linkage, check out Yankton!

 

Schedule

 

       
Aug 7 Fri IF City Club:  William Adams, Chairman, National Endowment for the Humanities (Bennion SUB, noon - 1:30pm)
Sept 10-12 Thu-Sat Idaho Falls Pride